Anyone ever crossed a golden retriever with a chocolate lab?

If the golden is chocolate, expect all chocolate pups. If it's black, then you should get all blacks. Maybe some chocolates if it's carrying chocolate.
What color is the golden's nose? I think you can tell that way :confused:
 
I personally am strongly against breeding dogs just because one can.
Spay and neuter, always.
If you're gonna breed, breed registered purebreds who have a guaranteed home after weaning.

Why bring more living beings into this world when there are already so many that need homes

Or, if you aren't going to fix your animals, only get one gender.
 
I personally am strongly against breeding dogs just because one can.
Spay and neuter, always.
If you're gonna breed, breed registered purebreds who have a guaranteed home after weaning.

Why bring more living beings into this world when there are already so many that need homes

Or, if you aren't going to fix your animals, only get one gender.
Perhaps it's different in your area, but I live in the Puppy-Mill Capital of the East.

Speaking as a Pennsylvanian, I'd rather have those theoretical puppies than 99% of the purebreds in my tri-state area.

Among purebreds, what we see locally is the Mennonite/Amish special (inbred, factory-farmed of dogs with no respect to genetics, temperament, or welfare, sold at the highest price the owners can finagle) and the imported-stock show dogs, which come with a price tag upwards of a grand. Anything that crowds out the first type of breeder is something I will promote heartily.

As for "adopt, don't shop," well, that's where the puppy-mill cast-offs go. My sister volunteered at the local shelter for a while. The dogs that stayed had an inbreeding-induced condition or were older than dirt. Healthy, normal dogs were adopted quickly. (Cats, on the other hand...)

I'm not interested in an expensive purebred when an intelligent mutt fulfills the same function with a lower chance of health problems, and I've not yet seen any puppy last longer than a month in the local classifieds. There's not exactly a low demand for them.

At least with this sort of backyard breeder, I can come over, see the parents and know that they are well-cared for and healthy dogs. Or not, as the case may be.

(Now, what I'm waiting for is the puppy market crash, when all of the get-rich-quick puppy-millers overwhelm the market and have nobody to buy their stock. They deserve everything coming to them.)
 
Perhaps it's different in your area, but I live in the Puppy-Mill Capital of the East.

Speaking as a Pennsylvanian, I'd rather have those theoretical puppies than 99% of the purebreds in my tri-state area.

Among purebreds, what we see locally is the Mennonite/Amish special (inbred, factory-farmed of dogs with no respect to genetics, temperament, or welfare, sold at the highest price the owners can finagle) and the imported-stock show dogs, which come with a price tag upwards of a grand. Anything that crowds out the first type of breeder is something I will promote heartily.

As for "adopt, don't shop," well, that's where the puppy-mill cast-offs go. My sister volunteered at the local shelter for a while. The dogs that stayed had an inbreeding-induced condition or were older than dirt. Healthy, normal dogs were adopted quickly. (Cats, on the other hand...)

I'm not interested in an expensive purebred when an intelligent mutt fulfills the same function with a lower chance of health problems, and I've not yet seen any puppy last longer than a month in the local classifieds. There's not exactly a low demand for them.

At least with this sort of backyard breeder, I can come over, see the parents and know that they are well-cared for and healthy dogs. Or not, as the case may be.

(Now, what I'm waiting for is the puppy market crash, when all of the get-rich-quick puppy-millers overwhelm the market and have nobody to buy their stock. They deserve everything coming to them.)
:goodpost:
 
But encouraging people to breed "better" puppies than the local puppy mill is going to result in backyard breeders, like you see elsewhere, who breed dogs without checking for potential health conditions or trying to do anything but make a few bucks. Note that this is not me saying OP is doing that, this is me saying that encouraging people to leave dogs intact and let them breed, like OP is doing, is a bad idea.
Also, desexed female dogs have a MASSIVELY lowered risk of reproductive cancers and pyometras, while male dogs are less aggressive and tend to live longer. It's currently somewhat debated when the best time is to desex larger dogs, as doing it too early can cause growth issues, but it is not in debate in the slightest that they SHOULD be desexed.
 
We bred our black Lab to a yellow Lab.... she only had 4 puppies and we got.. 2 chocolate pups, one yellow pup, and one black pup.
So you very well could get all three colors... I found it very interesting that our dog had such a small litter but had all three possible colors for Labs. When lots of people that breed a black to a yellow and will get a litter of 11 black puppies! That’s what happened to my husbands dog when he was a kid.
But because yours is a golden retriever and they have the only one possible coat color then perhaps things could be different.. I guess it’ll just have to be a waiting game.
 

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