Can an egg move up and down the oviduct? My hen is getting sicker, I was checking for a stuck egg and I am confused about my observations.

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Hi,

I have been trying to figure out what is going on with my young Hyline Brown, Ophie, who has been having all kinds of symtpoms that I can't narrow down to one illness. Yesterday evening I put a finger inside of her to see if I could feel an egg. I read that I would be able to push my finger straight back but her anatomy doesn't seem to work that way. I felt an egg through some tissue, it seemed to be further in and above my finger.

This morning there were some eggs, but none of them were bloody. Someone has been laying bloody eggs and I figure it is Ophie because her vent has been a bit bloody, so I didn’t think she had laid her egg. I checked inside again and it felt like there was an egg up there in the other side of whatever tissue is at the back of her cloaca, still above my finger. But it felt further in, and smaller. I thought maybe she had laid the egg I had felt the day before after all, and that this was another egg moving down. I expected it that was the case I would have one more egg than I am used to these days. I went out this evening to give them some greens and check fir more eggs, and she was hunched behind a crate with her eyes partially closed. She was dripping blood and discharge, her vent was open pretty wide and kind of purple, and the other hens were pecking at her as they walked by.

I picked her up and brought her to a small little coop we set up to isolate her if needed. I checked her out, and saw what looked like at egg. It looked like it was coming up from below. I touched it to confirm that it was an egg and it started to show more. I put her in her small coop to lay. When I came back about an hour later, she had not laid an egg. I cleaned her up, and went in again. This time I found the oviduct and was able to touch the shell of the egg with my finger. It was in and to the left (my left if facing her butt). I was surprised that it seemed to have gone back in! I moved my finger around the egg to see if it was broken or something, and what I could feel felt intact, but it almost seemed like the egg was sticking to the side of her oviduct on one side. It was tight up to that side anyway, my finger could get around it one way but not the other. I was being as gentle as I would with myself this whole time, and she was very calm while I did it so I don't think she was in pain though I'm sure it was uncomfortable!

Can a hen's egg move around in her oviduct?! Is she pulling it back somehow after I poke at her? Could she have just been laying her egg, and the blood is from something else, and when I isolated her she decided to not lay it and scooted it back in? Does anyone have any other theories?

Thank you for reading!
 
First thing you need to do for your hen is to give her a calcium tablet. This is what I recommend.
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But a Tums will do. This helps with contractions to help push the egg out.

If you have a roomy pet crate place the hen in it on several old towels that have been heated up in the dryer. Make fresh water accessible.

If you can, take some olive or coconut oil and lubricate around the vent. Take an oral syringe and fill it with warm water and squirt it just inside the vent rim between the outer tissue and the egg to lubricate the inside of the vent.

After doing all that, leave your hen in a quiet place with dim light. Check on her every hour or so. Report here on her progress and we'll assist you with any further developments.
 
First thing you need to do for your hen is to give her a calcium tablet. This is what I recommend. View attachment 3108712But a Tums will do. This helps with contractions to help push the egg out.

If you have a roomy pet crate place the hen in it on several old towels that have been heated up in the dryer. Make fresh water accessible.

If you can, take some olive or coconut oil and lubricate around the vent. Take an oral syringe and fill it with warm water and squirt it just inside the vent rim between the outer tissue and the egg to lubricate the inside of the vent.

After doing all that, leave your hen in a quiet place with dim light. Check on her every hour or so. Report here on her progress and we'll assist you with any further developments.
Thanks Azygous.

She is in a little chicken house on her own with fresh wood chips and fresh water. I bought tablets with 650mg calcium citrate and 400 IUI vitamin D and gave her one. I lubed her up with coconut oil and gently worked my finger around the egg. It was in the same spot as last night, and it still felt like it has adhered to the wall of her oviduct... I hope I'm wrong, ouch. That was 3.5 hours ago and she still hasn't laid her egg.
 
Ha she been drinking water? Getting dehydrated makes this issue much worse.

It's best to keep her calm, not mess with her too much, and let her relax so stress doesn't also complicate her efforts.
 
Ha she been drinking water? Getting dehydrated makes this issue much worse.

It's best to keep her calm, not mess with her too much, and let her relax so stress doesn't also complicate her

Ha she been drinking water? Getting dehydrated makes this issue much worse.

It's best to keep her calm, not mess with her too much, and let her relax so stress doesn't also complicate her efforts.
I can do that. Is it safe to give her a calcium tablet every morning? I didn't give her any food today because I didn't see any poop in her house and am worried about a blockage. Can I offer her some blueberries and some pellets or should I wait until she poops or lays?
 
I left her alone except to give her her calcium tsblet today. She wasn't looking well tonight... I haven't seen an egg. I'm going to try another bath tomorrow, and let her free range and do whatever she wants. I hope she makes it past this :(
 
Ophelia died in the night. Thanks for your help Azygous, if this ever happens again I will be able to act quicker and hopefully save my chicken.
 

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