Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[KarynVA]

"Not liking" something is not censorship ya know.

 

[RebeccaRN]

Yeah well you have fun in your hypothetical world. At least you are vaccinated and won’t get covid.

People who are symptomatic should stay home as should people who are vulnerable that is just common sense

 

[KarynVA]

People vulnerable to covid have a make a living, they have to go to work.

And, of course, as has already been discussed, people who are pre-symptomatic don't know they are infectious but still spread the virus.

 

[heatherbeast]

Science trivia butt nugget!

The mRNA vaccines cause stronger reactions than other vaccines because the mRNA itself prompts an immune response. This is in addition to the antigens that your own cells make to train the immune system to recognise the invading virus's spike proteins.

 

[RebeccaRN]

People vulnerable to covid have a make a living, they have to go to work.

And, of course, as has already been discussed, people who are pre-symptomatic don't know they are infectious but still spread the virus.

I hope they wear an N95 then and get the vaccine they are responsible for their health outcomes same as everyone else

 

[KarynVA]

I hope they wear an N95 then and get the vaccine they are responsible for their health outcomes same as everyone else

I agree with you but like everything, there are exceptions. There are people who are elderly and suffer from dementia or other conditions that prevent them from making responsible decisions about their health. Babies and young children are vulnerable and also cannot be expected to be responsible for their own health outcomes. People who are homeless and mentally ill cannot be expected to be responsible for their own health outcomes.

As a society, it is our responsibility to care for those who are unable to care for themselves.

 

[aart]

Science trivia butt nugget!

The mRNA vaccines cause stronger reactions than other vaccines because the mRNA itself prompts an immune response. This is in addition to the antigens that your own cells make to train the immune system to recognise the invading virus's spike proteins.

Do stronger responses mean a more active immune system and thus better protection by the vaccine?

 

[heatherbeast]

Do stronger responses mean a more active immune system and thus better protection by the vaccine?

That seems true so far, yes. Even if you do not have a reaction, you are still protected. The extra response can also be the result of previously having an asymptomatic or mild case. People who have been previously sick with CoVID-19 are still encouraged to get vaccinated because the vaccines provide a better immune response than natural infections. Why? The vaccines are made specifically for the outer spike proteins of the virus. There is no control over which portion of the virus that your immune system may recognize in naturally occuring infections. The Pfizer, Moderna, and JnJ vaccines will keep you off the ventilator and out of the morgue. People may still get mild to moderate illness with the single-shot JnJ, which is why it's described as 65% effective.

If someone has redness and swelling more than 2 inches away from their injection site, I encourage them to report to VAERS: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vaers.html

 

[RebeccaRN]

I agree with you but like everything, there are exceptions. There are people who are elderly and suffer from dementia or other conditions that prevent them from making responsible decisions about their health. Babies and young children are vulnerable and also cannot be expected to be responsible for their own health outcomes. People who are homeless and mentally ill cannot be expected to be responsible for their own health outcomes.

As a society, it is our responsibility to care for those who are unable to care for themselves.

You would need to get the other homeless vaccinated and as for elderly who are unable to make Healthcare decisions they have POAs for that and children have parents to help them with theirs.

 

[KarynVA]

You would need to get the other homeless vaccinated

I am against mandatory/ forced vaccinations. Sorry.

And not all parents are responsible - I believe there is a post at the top of this page that gives a very timely example.