Effective way to prevent worms/tapeworms?

[Ray987]

Hello

Long story short I'm losing a bunch of my chicks to tapeworms and I tried multiple meds with no luck (levamisole, Praziquantel ,albendazole) they just didn't heal and I don't know if the rest of them are even protected (I have 150 chicks different ages) anyways it doesn't seem like anything is working and I'm letting it be I just spent lots on meds and feed and not getting and results so I'm down huge, my question is how can I protect/prevent tapeworms in any chicks that I hatch, is there really no meds that can be added to water to prevent all type of worms? Is having to spend 4-5 hours dosing every chick using a syringe is the only way? And even that isn't doing great results please share your thoughts and experiences with tapeworms.

Also what's with respiratory diseases? Are they really incurable? Whenever i see a chick gasping for air it's like the end of the world for me because i was never able to cure respiratory symptoms

Note: I did a necropsy and saw the tapeworms that's how I know it's tapeworms for sure

This post is made out frustration, sorry in advance if it sounds ignorant.

 

[Debbie292d]

It does NOT sound ignorant. You're frustrated and so would we all be. You're looking for answers is all. I went to find out a little as I've never been in your shoes.

Please see this reply by @dawg53

For respiratory illnesses, I had a silkie hen with one. I give them all Poultry Cell or Nutra-Drench water about once every a week thinking I'm keeping them healthy. Fish mox helped her. That's amoxicillin. 57 mg per pound of weight every 12 hours for 5-7 days. I did 7 days.

 

[Ray987]

It does NOT sound ignorant. You're frustrated and so would we all be. You're looking for answers is all. I went to find out a little as I've never been in your shoes.

Please see this reply by @dawg53

For respiratory illnesses, I had a silkie hen with one. I give them all Poultry Cell or Nutra-Drench water about once every a week thinking I'm keeping them healthy. Fish mox helped her. That's amoxicillin. 57 mg per pound of weight every 12 hours for 5-7 days. I did 7 days.

Thank you, It's a bit of relief knowing that It's not just me struggling with tapeworms (was starting to think I'm doing something wrong) I've already locked up my chicks in their run so they'll be eating way less insects hopefully and I'll do what I can with the cleaning

Is it bad if they're eating their feed off the ground inside the run? It's impossible to keep the food in their feeders every time I wanna refill it's like a war zone in there they just don't let me fill anything and spill it all on the ground

 

[Debbie292d]

Thank you, It's a bit of relief knowing that It's not just me struggling with tapeworms (was starting to think I'm doing something wrong) I've already locked up my chicks in their run so they'll be eating way less insects hopefully and I'll do what I can with the cleaning

Is it bad if they're eating their feed off the ground inside the run? It's impossible to keep the food in their feeders every time I wanna refill it's like a war zone in there they just don't let me fill anything and spill it all on the ground

Chickens will be chickens, scratching and picking at whatever is on the ground. That's their nature. They start off doing that as little chicks even.

I know the worms can't take heat, nor being dry. We use horse bedding pellets in the coop so that stays extremely dry and low humidity, but for a run, I'm not sure. Maybe First Saturday's Lime or diatomaceous earth sprinkled all over the run would dry them out if they're in the dirt. The latter might even kill them, but I only use that for mite prevention so not sure. Maybe when @dawg53 gets back online, he'd have some insight with this too. He made it more so sound like it's the bugs. It must be certain areas are worse as all chickens eat bugs, but not all chickens get tapeworms, in fact, it seems to be one of the rarest, as roundworms are the more prevalent worm problem.

Do you have excess fly issues? We use PT-Alpine once a month and that kills 'em all in the coop. We just spray a dot of that on all four walls where chickens can't reach and that keeps the flies gone. The farmer across the road has horses, so that's why we have a fly issue.

 

[Ray987]

I just had 2 chicks die and these are the droppings, another sick one same droppings, I'm probably dealing with a secondary disease other than the tapeworms and can't figure it out, some of my chicks do have respiratory symptoms (i have them on Tylosin) but it's mild symptoms, little sneezing, mucous nothing looking to serious, they all eating and drinking even the ones that died they were eating and drinking until today, Newcastle? Coccidia? HELP!

Chickens will be chickens, scratching and picking at whatever is on the ground. That's their nature. They start off doing that as little chicks even.

I know the worms can't take heat, nor being dry. We use horse bedding pellets in the coop so that stays extremely dry and low humidity, but for a run, I'm not sure. Maybe First Saturday's Lime or diatomaceous earth sprinkled all over the run would dry them out if they're in the dirt. The latter might even kill them, but I only use that for mite prevention so not sure. Maybe when @dawg53 gets back online, he'd have some insight with this too. He made it more so sound like it's the bugs. It must be certain areas are worse as all chickens eat bugs, but not all chickens get tapeworms, in fact, it seems to be one of the rarest, as roundworms are the more prevalent worm problem.

Do you have excess fly issues? We use PT-Alpine once a month and that kills 'em all in the coop. We just spray a dot of that on all four walls where chickens can't reach and that keeps the flies gone. The farmer across the road has horses, so that's why we have a fly issue.

Chickens will be chickens, scratching and picking at whatever is on the ground. That's their nature. They start off doing that as little chicks even.

I know the worms can't take heat, nor being dry. We use horse bedding pellets in the coop so that stays extremely dry and low humidity, but for a run, I'm not sure. Maybe First Saturday's Lime or diatomaceous earth sprinkled all over the run would dry them out if they're in the dirt. The latter might even kill them, but I only use that for mite prevention so not sure. Maybe when @dawg53 gets back online, he'd have some insight with this too. He made it more so sound like it's the bugs. It must be certain areas are worse as all chickens eat bugs, but not all chickens get tapeworms, in fact, it seems to be one of the rarest, as roundworms are the more prevalent worm problem.

Do you have excess fly issues? We use PT-Alpine once a month and that kills 'em all in the coop. We just spray a dot of that on all four walls where chickens can't reach and that keeps the flies gone. The farmer across the road has horses, so that's why we have a fly issue.

Yes I do have flies lots of them, I was looking for a way to prevent them so thanks for suggesting that, even my quails brooder that's on the porch gets a lot of flies although I keep the bedding fresh, not sure I'll be able to find any PT-alpine here in Syria I'll have to look, any other alternatives in case i don't find this one?

 

[dawg53]

Chicks picking up and eating feed off the ground can pick up anything to cause them to get sick, including feed spilled out of a feeder.
I put scrap plywood under hanging or non hanging feeders and waterers to prevent that from happening. It's better for chicks and grown birds to peck feed off the dry wood than the soil.

 

[Muser]

Hello

Long story short I'm losing a bunch of my chicks to tapeworms and I tried multiple meds with no luck (levamisole, Praziquantel ,albendazole) they just didn't heal and I don't know if the rest of them are even protected (I have 150 chicks different ages) anyways it doesn't seem like anything is working and I'm letting it be I just spent lots on meds and feed and not getting and results so I'm down huge, my question is how can I protect/prevent tapeworms in any chicks that I hatch, is there really no meds that can be added to water to prevent all type of worms? Is having to spend 4-5 hours dosing every chick using a syringe is the only way? And even that isn't doing great results please share your thoughts and experiences with tapeworms.

Also what's with respiratory diseases? Are they really incurable? Whenever i see a chick gasping for air it's like the end of the world for me because i was never able to cure respiratory symptoms

Note: I did a necropsy and saw the tapeworms that's how I know it's tapeworms for sure

This post is made out frustration, sorry in advance if it sounds ignorant.

I feed my layers Flubenvet mixed into layers feed and the same drug in growers feed for the smaller ones, there is no egg withdrawal and seems to perk them up by the next day after they take it. I really think it works. I'm in the UK so a lot of drugs aren't allowed in food producing poultry without a withdrawal period for eggs too but thankfully it seems to work for my chickens.

 

[BDutch]

my question is how can I protect/prevent tapeworms in any chicks that I hatch, is there really no meds that can be added to water to prevent all type of worms?

I truly believe (and from reading a Dutch) research article the only way is to set up a second coop and run for all the chicks/newcomers.
The coop cant be on the same soil as where your infested chickens live.

Problems with worms is the chickens/soil is never completely free of worms.
A healthy flock with enough space can handle a small infestation without the use of medication. But it seems its much worse than that within you coop /run.

 

[Kiki]

I just had 2 chicks die and these are the droppings, another sick one same droppings, I'm probably dealing with a secondary disease other than the tapeworms and can't figure it out, some of my chicks do have respiratory symptoms (i have them on Tylosin) but it's mild symptoms, little sneezing, mucous nothing looking to serious, they all eating and drinking even the ones that died they were eating and drinking until today, Newcastle? Coccidia? HELP!


Yes I do have flies lots of them, I was looking for a way to prevent them so thanks for suggesting that, even my quails brooder that's on the porch gets a lot of flies although I keep the bedding fresh, not sure I'll be able to find any PT-alpine here in Syria I'll have to look, any other alternatives in case i don't find this one?

Sounds like the respiratory disease is what is killing them.

Could be:

https://npasyria.com/en/99759/

 

[Debbie292d]

I just had 2 chicks die and these are the droppings, another sick one same droppings, I'm probably dealing with a secondary disease other than the tapeworms and can't figure it out, some of my chicks do have respiratory symptoms (i have them on Tylosin) but it's mild symptoms, little sneezing, mucous nothing looking to serious, they all eating and drinking even the ones that died they were eating and drinking until today, Newcastle? Coccidia? HELP!


Yes I do have flies lots of them, I was looking for a way to prevent them so thanks for suggesting that, even my quails brooder that's on the porch gets a lot of flies although I keep the bedding fresh, not sure I'll be able to find any PT-alpine here in Syria I'll have to look, any other alternatives in case i don't find this one?

I found out about PT-Alpine working so well years ago from my sister, who raises thousands of turkeys commercially—it's what they use in their turkey barns, even the poult barns. Thus, could you contact a large commercially run poultry place like that there and ask them how they control flies?

I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about products outside of the U.S.

And I'm so, so sorry for those chickens dying.

I'd put them all on vitamins in their water or, however, you can boost their immune systems there. We use Poultry Cell or Nutra-Drench and probiotics. Adult chickens don't usually succumb to coccidiosis, but it's not unheard of either. They'll need probiotics anyway when you're done with the Tylosin.