Finishing up my first run/coop for a new chicken keeper - Advice?

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Hi all! I am in the final stretch of finishing a home for my x7 five ish week old chicks who are currently living in a brooder in my house in Portland Maine (6A). I am a first time ever chicken keeper, any and all advice and criticism is appreciated and will be well taken.

I am building a 8ft x 16ft run, and I purchased a coop locally last year that never got used. In retrospect, I should have just built it myself for more customization, but for now I think I can make it work. I also plan on letting them free range frequently.

So here are my basic plans so far. The run will be fully covered with half inch 19 gauge hardware cloth. It also has an apron on the outside, and will have rocks on top of that. There will be an angled metal roof which will eventually collect rain water for the birds. I will attach the coop to the side of the run. The bottom of the coop will be open from the run, and that is where their food and water will be (except the winter, I will have to have some in the coop as well). Although the run is covered, I figure under the coop will still be the driest, and feel the safest for the girls to eat and drink. Eventually there will be DIY PVC pipes with water pump circulated water from the rain barrels with poultry nipples. There will also be the DIY 4 inch PVC feeders which are also frequently seen online. Until then, just traditional feeders/waterers. I will have a dust bath, apple cider vin in the water, grit, and oyster shells accessible when they start laying.

At first I am thinking I will keep the grass in the run, and let the girls forge until it is bare, at which point I will cover it with several inches of wood chips. I was thinking I would do linoleum tiles in the coop, and do several inches of flake pine chips for the deep litter method.

I think my biggest question or concern is the ventilation in the coop and if I need insulation or anything? My current plan is to turn the small window on the left into the door, which will have am omlet auto door. I know it is all an enclosed system, but I figure it will just be a little extra protection when they are roosting. The coop is roughly 5x3.5 (not including any nesting space), which is tight for 7 chickens I hear, but I am thinking that with the large run, and their ability to free range at times, it will be OK, and it will help the keep warm in the cold winters. I definitely need to add more ventilation. I was thinking maybe two or three vents 12x12 siding vents as close to the roof as possible to create some cross air? But to not create draft where they will be roosting.

I have provided pictures as reference. With all of this said, I would love any insight if people think I am on the right track, or if there is anything I should maybe reconsider? Thanks very much all!
 

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Definitely needs as much ventilation as you can squeeze in there. But I'm not sure how to get enough in this situation. With such a small space, too many birds for the space, and minimal ventilation it could cause condensation inside on the metal roof which would be very bad. Insulation on the ceiling helps with that but would lower your ceiling height considerably which would leave no space for vents, so this is a tricky one. Maybe someone else has some ideas on that.

What kind of rocks on the apron? You'll want them to be small (gravel) so the predators dig into it and are stopped by the hardware cloth.
 
The coop is roughly 5x3.5 (not including any nesting space), which is tight for 7 chickens I hear, but I am thinking that with the large run, and their ability to free range at times, it will be OK
The coop space will be an issue if the chickens don't want to go out in the run during middle of winter. How much snow do you typically get and do you plan on winterizing the run?

StinkyAcres already mentioned the potential issue with lack of ventilation as well as "rocks" on the apron. Gravel on the apron is okay, but larger rocks could negate some of the apron coverage.
 
The coop space will be an issue if the chickens don't want to go out in the run during middle of winter. How much snow do you typically get and do you plan on winterizing the run?

StinkyAcres already mentioned the potential issue with lack of ventilation as well as "rocks" on the apron. Gravel on the apron is okay, but larger rocks could negate some of the apron coverage.
I was thinking 3/4inch stone? Unless you think that's too big? I'm sure I can source gravel somewhere https://riversiderecycles.com/products/index

What do you mean by winterizing the run in the winter? Adding some canvas to the sides to prevent snow from blowing in or something?
 
Kind of unrelated, but I'm also getting some feedback to move the coop into then run instead of attaching it. For obvious advatges. I was torn with this for a while going back and forth. I guess they wouldn't lose too much real-estate and woukd have more protection from the elements and also predators. I could probably still move it if I decided.
 
Kind of unrelated, but I'm also getting some feedback to move the coop into then run instead of attaching it. For obvious advatges. I was torn with this for a while going back and forth. I guess they wouldn't lose too much real-estate and woukd have more protection from the elements and also predators. I could probably still move it if I decided.
Biggest reason I decided against it was to avoid having to enter the run everytime I needed to access the coop
 
Biggest reason I decided against it was to avoid having to enter the run everytime I needed to access the coop
Good enough reason. I have my coop inside the run so yes I need to walk through at least one run door (usually 2) to get into the coop to get eggs. Though it might add a slight bit of extra security having it fully enclosed.
 
The coop space will be an issue if the chickens don't want to go out in the run during middle of winter. How much snow do you typically get and do you plan on winterizing the run?

StinkyAcres already mentioned the potential issue with lack of ventilation as well as "rocks" on the apron. Gravel on the apron is okay, but larger rocks could negate some of the apron coverage.
When you say negate the coverage of the apron, are you saying that the predetor might be convinced to go to the edge of the rocks and try to dig there (where the apron starts), instead of the wall of the run where the apron is most effective? Do you think 3/4inch is too big?
 
When you say negate the coverage of the apron, are you saying that the predetor might be convinced to go to the edge of the rocks and try to dig there (where the apron starts), instead of the wall of the run where the apron is most effective? Do you think 3/4inch is too big?
3/4" should be ok. Some folks use very large stones around the base or cinder blocks, but all that does is improve the odds of predators/pests finding the edge of the apron.

What do you mean by winterizing the run in the winter? Adding some canvas to the sides to prevent snow from blowing in or something?
Winterizing usually involves covering up some of the run walls to ward off snow, cold winds and rain. I don't winterize at all but I have generally mild-ish winters with no more than maybe 6" of snow, which I shovel pathways through, so the birds don't get stuck in the coop. Most chickens hate snow so if you do not clear out snow in the run or free range area they would most likely not want to come out, and that's when issues with limited coop space would become more pronounced.
 

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