Goose or Gander??

[EyeToLensToPage]

So I recently got another goose for my Gander, this is my second attempt at purchasing a year old goose. I got duped the first time and instead of a goose ended up with a gander and I'm worried that it's happened once again. She is supposed to be a year old mixed breed of African and American Buff. What's your guess, I'm hoping my gut is wrong.

 

[Miss Lydia]

So I recently got another goose for my Gander, this is my second attempt at purchasing a year old goose. I got duped the first time and instead of a goose ended up with a gander and I'm worried that it's happened once again. She is supposed to be a year old mixed breed of African and American Buff. What's your guess, I'm hoping my gut is wrong.

What a gorgeous goose. I am no good at guessing sex but @servpolice is For some reason I can not tag right now.

But any way Welcome to BYC. Voice is one way of telling does this goose have high pitched or mumble low pitch. High gander low mumble female.

 

[EyeToLensToPage]

Thank you for replying, she sounds a little like our Embden goose, but she/he also shrieks at times. I took some photos today of our Embden and gander Toulouse with him/her there as well to have something to compare it to.

 

[Miss Lydia]

@servpolice we need you help!!

@jchny2000 too please.

My Embden gander is very loud I have a Toulouse female that can be loud too but her voice is much lower pitched than my ganders is.

They are beautiful geese. How are the 2 ganders acting with your new one?

This sums it up. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...se-from-a-gander-in-case-anyone-is-interested

 

[EyeToLensToPage]

Thank you Miss Lydia In the picture I have just one Gander, at least I hope lol. The Toulouse and Embden are mated, I have another gander and he just attacks the new one. The "couple" sort of just tolerate her but peck at her if she get's too close. I've been trying to keep the new one alone with the Embden so they can bond as it's what I read I should to when integrating a new goose. They aren't really bonding since the Embden bites at the new one whenever she get's too close. I've been keeping the Ganders away from them to give them time to bond, but it's been a week and not much has changed. My other gander is a rescued Canada, he doesn't seem to much like anyone new.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Thank you Miss Lydia In the picture I have just one Gander, at least I hope lol. The Toulouse and Embden are mated, I have another gander and he just attacks the new one. The "couple" sort of just tolerate her but peck at her if she get's too close. I've been trying to keep the new one alone with the Embden so they can bond as it's what I read I should to when integrating a new goose. They aren't really bonding since the Embden bites at the new one whenever she get's too close. I've been keeping the Ganders away from them to give them time to bond, but it's been a week and not much has changed. My other gander is a rescued Canada, he doesn't seem to much like anyone new.

It takes time. When I brought home a female Toulouse for my Embden gander he was bonded to a Muscovy duck[she hatched him too] so for 5 yrs he had only been with Muscovy's. I had to separate him and the new goose from his Duck mate and it still took about 3 months for him to accept her. But when mating season came around in Jan well things sure changed then and they have been a pair ever sense. So I got her in Aug of 2012 and until Jan of 2013 they were trying to work out a relationship.

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Thank you for replying, she sounds a little like our Embden goose, but she/he also shrieks at times. I took some photos today of our Embden and gander Toulouse with him/her there as well to have something to compare it to.

My Buffs both Shrieked out a call, and the voices were very close. Buffs & mixes are about the hardest to tell apart. The regular voice was my only clue. Anytime you start comingling adults there are always disagreements. If its a goose, your single gander will take to her come breeding season.
Beautiful goose for sure!

 

[EyeToLensToPage]

Thanks JC, guess I'll have to be patient and wait for the breeding season. She (hopefully she lol) is a gorgeous goose and she wants to fit in badly but no one's letting her. she get's upset when the others are out of sight. I'm concerned that my Canada may hurt her because he keeps chasing and biting her. I've been keeping her caged up with my other female for a week and they are a little better but not bonded. I let them roam with the ganders today and my Canada chased her a few times. The Toulouse goes after her too, but he stops in his tracks when I tell him no, the Canada is way to stubborn. I hope they all get along at some point.

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Thanks JC, guess I'll have to be patient and wait for the breeding season. She (hopefully she lol) is a gorgeous goose and she wants to fit in badly but no one's letting her. she get's upset when the others are out of sight. I'm concerned that my Canada may hurt her because he keeps chasing and biting her. I've been keeping her caged up with my other female for a week and they are a little better but not bonded. I let them roam with the ganders today and my Canada chased her a few times. The Toulouse goes after her too, but he stops in his tracks when I tell him no, the Canada is way to stubborn. I hope they all get along at some point.

There will always be a pecking order. My 2 youngest Brown Chinese hens are still bottom of the flock, both girls are 3 this year I named them "twins". Actual sisters & they are always together even brooding nests. My other 3 are older. 5yr olds, the white Chinese pair Gee and Angel, and 4yr old- my brown Chinese gander (Jerk, later renamed Big Boy). Off season, the 2 brown girls are scolded if they invade my older geese's space.
Oops forgot to add I vote goose, looking at the pictures closer. Much shorter neck! And what seems like a terrible fight to us is often not as bad as we think. Flogging is when we need to consider it an actual fight or if you see blood drawn. Wing and neck grabbing is more typical flock pecking order activities. If the attacker pins down the other goose and flogs repeatedly with its wings, its an outright attack and should be stopped. Never put yourself in the middle tho, those wings HURT!

 

[servpolice]

So I recently got another goose for my Gander, this is my second attempt at purchasing a year old goose. I got duped the first time and instead of a goose ended up with a gander and I'm worried that it's happened once again. She is supposed to be a year old mixed breed of African and American Buff. What's your guess, I'm hoping my gut is wrong.

Like Jchny said it's hard to tell from the voice. The voice of the cross of a Swan type breed (African or Chinese) and greylag types are impossible to tell by voices since its a very messed up voice at times since both sexes can shrieks with this cross haha In the last picture it looks male from your latest pictures as it is making a mating neck signal with its neck but females do it too. Looks like a female to me and a nice big one too. But look carefully how it reacts to the embden.