Great Depression of 2016

[The Yakima Kid]

Again, you have to read the law. Each nation has its own out look on the situation. Carlos Salinas Gotari, former president of Mexico, took asylum in Ireland. His enemies blamed him for all of the economic ills. They prevented his daughter from having Mexican citizenship. She has to carry and Irish passport.

Guess what? EVERY NATION HAS ITS OWN OUTLOOK on the situation. The US is not responsible for fixing all of the injustices in the world, nor should it be. If enough Mexicans don't like things the way they are in Mexico, and they can't conveniently move to the US illegally, maybe they will get around to improving things in Mexico. There is no reason that we should fix any nation's domestic problems by providing an escape valve for foreign nationals.

Let's just mirror back to other countries what their laws say. Problem solved. No welfare for children of foreigners in Mexico; no welfare in US for children of Mexicans living in the US. No birthright citizenship in China or Japan; no birthright citizenship for Chinese or Japanese nationals children in the US.

 

[rufus]

The solution to the immigration problem is logical. Seal the border. Build a wall. It worked in Israel; it will work here. Sort the population. Everyone gets an identification card and a file with fingerprints, DNA and biological data. Those foreigners with criminal convictions get a free trip home. Those without a criminal conviction get to stay as long as they behave and pay income taxes. One crime and they are on the way home.

No social welfare benefits until they get their citizenship. No working and being paid under the table. Everyone needs to pay their income tax.

If we remove the attractant, we will see a rapid decrease in illegal entry. Some may even elect to go home rather than pay taxes.

 

[The Yakima Kid]

You are aware that the US and Canada are the only countries in the developed world that offer birthright citizenship?

The other developed nations that offered birthright citizenship have repealed it:

• Australia (2007)
• New Zealand (2005)
• Ireland (2005)
• France (1993)
• Malta (1989)
• UK (1983)
• Portugal (1981)

Here is a list of the status of birthright citizenship in developed nations:

YES

NO
Canada Andorra
United States Australia
Austria
Belgium
Bermuda
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Faroe Islands
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Holy See
Hong Kong
Iceland
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Japan
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Malta
Monaco
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
San Marino
Singapore
Slovakia
Slovenia
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
United Kingdom

 

[The Yakima Kid]

Apparently you have a far different breed of illegals than I had contact with where I lived in California. Those people were here to make money to send back to their families in Mexico and when the crops were finished they went back themselves.

They are very different, different from the migrant workers we had in the Yakima Valley around my relatives area. Up there we had a lot of settled Tejanos, who are US citizens and have lived here probably since the days of New Spain, and we had the occasional mojidor from Mexico (as they were called in those days.) The mojidors worked and sent money home, they tended to try to stay out of trouble, and they left when the crops were finished. The Tejanos owned a lot of the small businesses in the reservation towns and some worked in agriculture. What happened was that after WWII and again after the Korean War, many young men from the Yakima Valley were killed or decided to move away from the Valley, and a void was created where businesses were available for sale, and where commercial rentals were widely vacant and available and the Tejanos stayed and started businesses and quit following the crops.

The new breed seem to hold the law in contempt. It is like even the good ones gratuitously break laws and show contempt for our culture. Everything from tossing dirty disposable diapers in the parking lot at the supermarket to changing the oil in their cars and pouring it down the storm drain. It is beyond weird. When you ask them not to do these things, if they speak any English, they tell you that is how they did it in Mexico, or Guatemala, or wherever.

Complete contempt for US law, the US environment, and the American people.

So, no, I do not like them and I do not trust them. The contrast between them and the legal immigrants in our area is incredible; and many of our legal immigrants don't like them, either. They will talk about how bad conditions were back home - and then they will point out that these guys were crooks back home and they didn't gain honesty by crossing the border. One of our legal immigrant neighbors kept apologizing to the entire neighborhood for the behavior of one illegal family, and we had to tell him, all of us at one point or another, that he was no more responsible for their actions than the rest of us were for the Hells Angels, the Nortenos, the Mafia, the Triads, the Yakuza, etc. He and another father in the neighborhood separately told us that the thugs made them ashamed to be Latino, which is the real tragedy. No one should feel ashamed for the actions of others.

 

[The Yakima Kid]

The solution to the immigration problem is logical. Seal the border. Build a wall. It worked in Israel; it will work here. Sort the population. Everyone gets an identification card and a file with fingerprints, DNA and biological data. Those foreigners with criminal convictions get a free trip home. Those without a criminal conviction get to stay as long as they behave and pay income taxes. One crime and they are on the way home.

No social welfare benefits until they get their citizenship. No working and being paid under the table. Everyone needs to pay their income tax.

If we remove the attractant, we will see a rapid decrease in illegal entry. Some may even elect to go home rather than pay taxes.

I agree completely. I notice here that the only time my illegal neighbors asked me for help with tax forms is when they qualify for the Earned Income Credit. If they don't qualify, they definitely weren't filing. I found out that the way they would set up their withholding was not only did they use someone else's identification, but they would declare more dependents than they had so nothing was withheld.

I think that they should have to wait longer for citizenship eligibility if they came here illegally - maybe fifteen years for the adults. People brought here under the age of seven and fluent in English should not have to wait as long, just the standard amount.

 

[rufus]

Well, while we can see answers to the problem, we have absolutely no input on the issue. It looks like there will a presidential action of some sort. It will not be good for the nation. As I said before, the country we knew is gone.

 

[hemet dennis]

And in other chicken related news,

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...ning-u-s-chicken-and-some-european-fruit.html

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

And in other chicken related news,

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...ning-u-s-chicken-and-some-european-fruit.html

Chicken experts in the comments...

Well thats what happens when you play those games. We ban imports from Russia, did anyone think they would not do the same?

 

[rufus]

Adding to the mix, many banks in Mexico will not cash or accept for payment checks drawn on US banks after August 1st. It looks like the wire transfer business is going to boom.

 

[hemet dennis]

Adding to the mix, many banks in Mexico will not cash or accept for payment checks drawn on US banks after August 1st. It looks like the wire transfer business is going to boom.

Now where did you hear that ?