Hands on hatching and help

[Companihen]

I need some guidance or leta say reassurance…
timeline

Day 25 (Aug 18)
- first hatch (#1)
8pm - #2 (assisted hatch)

Day 26 (Aug 19)
AM - #3 and #4
11:30am - #5
At that time anyone who was moving and didn’t external pip I made an external hole in the top of the egg
8:30pm - #6 got stuck and passed away
#7 - no issues

Day 27 (Aug 20) - Today
7:00am #8, #9 #10 assisted out (only small part zippered but just quite, no bleeding and yolk absorbed)
9:00pm #11 found hatched

I had given up on the other eggs but I just listened and I have taping/peeping coming 4 more eggs. They all had external holes made by me and no other external cracks.

I am thinking I am just gonna go for it and help…it is now just past 9pm here

Can't really give advice... just hope all the best whatever you do. I haven't assisted a hatch before. Last time I had 4 not hatch 2 had fully formed chicks in ... always look back and wonder what I could have done

 

[MrsWinterWheat]

Can't really give advice... just hope all the best whatever you do. I haven't assisted a hatch before. Last time I had 4 not hatch 2 had fully formed chicks in ... always look back and wonder what I could have done

Thanks!! Yah I don’t want to leave them if I could have helped…but I don’t want to help too soon. Such a delicate balance…

 

[lowschickens]

For a few months @RubyNala97 and I have talked about having a thread for Hands on Hatchers to come together and for help for those who want to be more involved or don't want to accept the "Never help a chick" theory. People have different methods of hatching, and that's ok. When you find something that works for you, you do it. Don't worry about what other's views are, as long as your method is working- that is what is important. This thread is meant for us hands on people. A place to come together and talk, exchange our "hands on" methods, or seek help in assisting or just to see how our methods really do work for us. We aren't a thread to debate the differences for hands on/hands off, there's a thread for that. We are strictly for people that want to experience hatching in it's entirety w/out being literally yelled at because you are doing it different or because you are being hands on. OH no you opened your incubator at hatch??? That's ok, here we understand and will help anyone who needs it regardless of wether you did something we wouldn't. One of the greatest and most knowledgeable things is candling, and you shouldn't be afraid to do it.

A little about myself: I use an old LG incubator with fan attatchement, and I have awesome hatches. My last was 100%. I prefer a low humidity incubation method, and a high hatch humidity. I am VERY hands on. I open my incubator frequently during hatch and I have NEVER lost a chick that has pipped or started zipping. I seldom have post hatch mortality and my chicks are very healthy with no leg problems. And I am more than willing to assist my chicks if I feel it is neccessary. Why am I saying this? Because these are the things that a lot of hands off hatchers will swear to you will happen if you are not hands off. I respect a hands off hatchers philospohies and that's great for them. But I hate the fact that some would condem and put down those of us that don't share their philosophy. So if you are looking for a place to share your experiences and excitment in being hands on, without the worry of being scolded or threatened you won't be helped in a time of need, feel free to jump in and inroduce yourselves. Tell us a little about your methods and share pics of your flocks and chicks.

any advice? i placed 2 silkie/cochin mix eggs under my broody hen on 11/14, there was a few times where one of my bully chickens would kick my broody hen off of the nest and she would leave for almost an hour so the eggs would be cold and i was sure they died. i left them underneath her though and they developed! on 12/5 at like 6pm which should’ve been day 21, one of the eggs internally piped. on 12/6 by 8pm no further progression and the chick wasn’t moving as much, so i made a safety hole. the chick hatched on 12/7 sometime before 2pm. however, the other egg hadn’t internally piped until 12/6 around 8pm when i checked on the other egg. i couldn’t hear this chick chirp, it wasn’t moving or anything so i got concerned but i waited. on 12/7 at like 5am it had no progression still and no movement or noise so i made a safety hole for it, and i feel like as soon as i made the hole the chick moved but wasn’t making noise like the other one. i put it back under the broody hen, and by 12/8 at 5am there was no movement, nothing…i panicked and opened the air shell like the post says and put coconut oil on the membrane and there was still blood vessels on it so i didn’t go any further, and it looked like the beak had just barely internally piped?? put it back underneath mom and waited. 12/8 now 9pm, no progression no movement no noise nothing….put coconut oil on the membrane to see the blood vessels and the blood vessels were gone, so i helped the chick by removing more of the membrane, when i did this it chirped once!! and i could see it taking breaths but no real movements. towards the head of the chicken there were still active blood vessels and it bled a small amount so i applied pressure and stopped and put it back under the momma hen. what do i do now?? i’m worried i may have shrink wrapped it or done something to kill it or something wrong. please help! attaching a picture of it as of right now (the small bleed was under my middle finger, and it stopped before i put it back under the mom hen)

 

[Chicken_tiger_catt]

any advice? i placed 2 silkie/cochin mix eggs under my broody hen on 11/14, there was a few times where one of my bully chickens would kick my broody hen off of the nest and she would leave for almost an hour so the eggs would be cold and i was sure they died. i left them underneath her though and they developed! on 12/5 at like 6pm which should’ve been day 21, one of the eggs internally piped. on 12/6 by 8pm no further progression and the chick wasn’t moving as much, so i made a safety hole. the chick hatched on 12/7 sometime before 2pm. however, the other egg hadn’t internally piped until 12/6 around 8pm when i checked on the other egg. i couldn’t hear this chick chirp, it wasn’t moving or anything so i got concerned but i waited. on 12/7 at like 5am it had no progression still and no movement or noise so i made a safety hole for it, and i feel like as soon as i made the hole the chick moved but wasn’t making noise like the other one. i put it back under the broody hen, and by 12/8 at 5am there was no movement, nothing…i panicked and opened the air shell like the post says and put coconut oil on the membrane and there was still blood vessels on it so i didn’t go any further, and it looked like the beak had just barely internally piped?? put it back underneath mom and waited. 12/8 now 9pm, no progression no movement no noise nothing….put coconut oil on the membrane to see the blood vessels and the blood vessels were gone, so i helped the chick by removing more of the membrane, when i did this it chirped once!! and i could see it taking breaths but no real movements. towards the head of the chicken there were still active blood vessels and it bled a small amount so i applied pressure and stopped and put it back under the momma hen. what do i do now?? i’m worried i may have shrink wrapped it or done something to kill it or something wrong. please help! attaching a picture of it as of right now (the small bleed was under my middle finger, and it stopped before i put it back under the mom hen) View attachment 4003359

I have had two like this. One died and one still lives. At this point, I would wait, unless your chicken parent spider sense starts tingling.

 

[2 chiks n a roo]

any advice? i placed 2 silkie/cochin mix eggs under my broody hen on 11/14, there was a few times where one of my bully chickens would kick my broody hen off of the nest and she would leave for almost an hour so the eggs would be cold and i was sure they died. i left them underneath her though and they developed! on 12/5 at like 6pm which should’ve been day 21, one of the eggs internally piped. on 12/6 by 8pm no further progression and the chick wasn’t moving as much, so i made a safety hole. the chick hatched on 12/7 sometime before 2pm. however, the other egg hadn’t internally piped until 12/6 around 8pm when i checked on the other egg. i couldn’t hear this chick chirp, it wasn’t moving or anything so i got concerned but i waited. on 12/7 at like 5am it had no progression still and no movement or noise so i made a safety hole for it, and i feel like as soon as i made the hole the chick moved but wasn’t making noise like the other one. i put it back under the broody hen, and by 12/8 at 5am there was no movement, nothing…i panicked and opened the air shell like the post says and put coconut oil on the membrane and there was still blood vessels on it so i didn’t go any further, and it looked like the beak had just barely internally piped?? put it back underneath mom and waited. 12/8 now 9pm, no progression no movement no noise nothing….put coconut oil on the membrane to see the blood vessels and the blood vessels were gone, so i helped the chick by removing more of the membrane, when i did this it chirped once!! and i could see it taking breaths but no real movements. towards the head of the chicken there were still active blood vessels and it bled a small amount so i applied pressure and stopped and put it back under the momma hen. what do i do now?? i’m worried i may have shrink wrapped it or done something to kill it or something wrong. please help! attaching a picture of it as of right now (the small bleed was under my middle finger, and it stopped before i put it back under the mom hen) View attachment 4003359

There's a well written thread on here about how and when to help hatch. It explains every aspect and is very good. I use the person's methods hatching my own.
Someone else might know the thread, but I'll find it later an share it