HELP ! Marble in throat /esophagus advice please 🙏

[Loving my girls]

This can be fatal if a marble that size gets down into the digestive track as it's likely too large to pass though the gizzard. She would die of starvation with it clogging the digestive tract.

You've got two options as I see it. One is to try to work it back up and out of the esophagus. The second is to encourage it down into the crop and then do crop surgery to remove it.

Raw egg white is slimier than oil, so if you want to lube it, use the raw egg white.

Please understand that when I said marble I was only using it to give an idea of size and shape. It won’t be an actual marble.
However, tomorrow I will try her with the raw egg white.
I am not sure how she would cope if it were to come upwards. I’m concerned that it may choke her in the process.
Anyway, fingers crossed eh, one thing’s for sure I will not let her starve to death or suffer needlessly.

 

[Eggcessive]

The trachial cartilage may feel like that. The trachea is a round tube covered by cartilage. So you may be feeling that and there might bpnot be anything stuck. However if she is having stridor she could have just the tiniest piece of feed stuck in her airway somewhere. Most times stridor goes away on it’s own with pin a few hours, and the chicken can act very normal. Below in the diagram you can see the ring-like tracheal cartilage. Here in post 1 of the video below, is a chicken making the sound of stridor:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...can be with both,or swollen tissue is present.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Anyway, I found a lump in her esophagus, about the size of a marble (1.5cm/half an inch diameter). It was solid but kind of movable like it was hanging by a cord from the side.

Just done some googling and I noticed that the roof of Buffys mouth is white and not black. It’s smooth does this mean it’s Canker ?

They’re not lesions, it’s just that the top of the mouth is all white unlike the black that is shown online. I suspect that the black is dependent upon the skin colour, and Buffys skin is white.
I’m talking about the choanal slit

Ive just come in from massaging with olive oil. The lump will move up by about 2cm (1 inch) but won’t move down. I can only assume that this is due to the flexibility of the esophagus. She is wheezing really badly.

At the moment she is eating and drinking ok,

She was eating/drinking o.k.
Is she now after all the manipulation and massaging?

If the condition is worsened and is in distress now, with giving the oil and massage, then give her the egg as suggested and see if the lump will go down.

Try to avoid syringing liquid oil, you risk aspiration, aspirating oil is deadly. If you feel she must have oil, give small chunks of coconut oil that she can eat on her own.

Color of the interior of the beak can be dependent on breed. You had a couple of posts about the inside of the beak and choanal slit, this is what it should look like if there's no material or canker inside the beak. For an Orpington, then inside of the beak will probably be a little less pink, they have white skin.

 

[Loving my girls]

Color of the interior of the beak can be dependent on breed. You had a couple of posts about the inside of the beak and choanal slit, this is what it should look like if there's no material or canker inside the beak. For an Orpington, then inside of the beak will probably be a little less pink, they have white skin.

Yes, this is the picture I saw, her choanal slit is white but I suspect that is because her skin is so white.

 

[Loving my girls]

She was eating/drinking o.k.
Is she now after all the manipulation and massaging?

If the condition is worsened and is in distress now, with giving the oil and massage, then give her the egg as suggested and see if the lump will go down.

The massaging didn’t make any difference, she can’t talk and her breathing is really laboured. Although I have seen her eat a piece of sweetcorn her crop was almost empty when she went to bed.
The lump wouldn’t go downwards at all and I don’t know if it’s too big to come up, I don’t know what size can be ‘vomited’.

 

[Loving my girls]

The trachial cartilage may feel like that. The trachea is a round tube covered by cartilage. So you may be feeling that and there might bpnot be anything stuck. However if she is having stridor she could have just the tiniest piece of feed stuck in her airway somewhere. Most times stridor goes away on it’s own with pin a few hours, and the chicken can act very normal. Below in the diagram you can see the ring-like tracheal cartilage. Here in post 1 of the video below, is a chicken making the sound of stridor:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...can be with both,or swollen tissue is present.

I can’t feel anything above or below the lump, I think if it was the cartilage I would, what do you think ?
The noise on the video is not the same, Buffy makes no noise. She can’t talk at all, not even a whistle, and her breathing is laboured.

 

[Loving my girls]

The trachial cartilage may feel like that. The trachea is a round tube covered by cartilage. So you may be feeling that and there might bpnot be anything stuck. However if she is having stridor she could have just the tiniest piece of feed stuck in her airway somewhere. Most times stridor goes away on it’s own with pin a few hours, and the chicken can act very normal. Below in the diagram you can see the ring-like tracheal cartilage. Here in post 1 of the video below, is a chicken making the sound of stridor:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/silkie-w-possible-stridor.1218528/#:~:text=Stridor can be with both,or swollen tissue is present.

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What about a ruptured cervical air sack ?
The lump does feel a bit balloon like and their is no noise.
Opinion ?

 

[Eggcessive]

What about a ruptured cervical air sack ?
The lump does feel a bit balloon like and their is no noise.
Opinion ?

A ruptured air sac would feel like air under the skin and soft. You won’t feel the whole trachea, but only the area that is exposed. Is she drinking water? Can you try feeding her some scrambled egg that is mashed with water or a little veg/olive oil?

 

[NatJ]

I can’t feel anything above or below the lump, I think if it was the cartilage I would, what do you think ?
The noise on the video is not the same, Buffy makes no noise. She can’t talk at all, not even a whistle, and her breathing is laboured.

Do you have other chickens? If so, try feeling all their necks. That should give you a good idea of what is normal, which is helpful for recognizing problems and also for describing the problems.

 

[Eggcessive]

Do you have other chickens? If so, try feeling all their necks. That should give you a good idea of what is normal, which is helpful for recognizing problems and also for describing the problems.

Exactly. I had meant to say that as well. Too early in the am.