Help me sex my new ducklings and confirm what breed my ducklings are

[Hamudazahabi]

Hello,

I have recently bought 5 new ducklings. The shop called it "Itik Telur", which is in Malaysian and means "Egg Duck" if I translate it literally. Another shop had told me earlier that when Malaysians say: "egg duck," they mean Khaki Campbell ducks. The seller showed me a picture of an adult male and female next to each others, and they look like Khaki Campbells as well, with the green head for the male and the fully brown female.

Keep in mind that I am new to ducks in the first place as I have only had 3 ducks before, they are muscovies, and they're now around 3 months old, and I bought them around 2 weeks old.

I bought 5. 1 one of them was acting a little weak yesterday, and didn't run around as much, and eventually died alone without doing anything. The rest are very active like they should be. They're probably a little less than a week old. I was sure they're muscovies because of what the shops said, and thus I didn't think about the breed much but about sexing them. I tried vent sexing them but it was way too hard as I keep being unsure, so I searched to see if Khaki Campbell ducklings had any down color difference when young. The results showed that they all should be brown, and I quickly realized that my ones has yellow bellies, or atleast most of them does. I attached 1 picture of each of these 4 remaining ducklings. I am sorry if this post is too long, and thank you very much for reading it.

 

[Hamudazahabi]

Hello,

I have recently bought 5 new ducklings. The shop called it "Itik Telur", which is in Malaysian and means "Egg Duck" if I translate it literally. Another shop had told me earlier that when Malaysians say: "egg duck," they mean Khaki Campbell ducks. The seller showed me a picture of an adult male and female next to each others, and they look like Khaki Campbells as well, with the green head for the male and the fully brown female.

Keep in mind that I am new to ducks in the first place as I have only had 3 ducks before, they are muscovies, and they're now around 3 months old, and I bought them around 2 weeks old.

I bought 5. 1 one of them was acting a little weak yesterday, and didn't run around as much, and eventually died alone without doing anything. The rest are very active like they should be. They're probably a little less than a week old. I was sure they're muscovies because of what the shops said, and thus I didn't think about the breed much but about sexing them. I tried vent sexing them but it was way too hard as I keep being unsure, so I searched to see if Khaki Campbell ducklings had any down color difference when young. The results showed that they all should be brown, and I quickly realized that my ones has yellow bellies, or atleast most of them does. I attached 1 picture of each of these 4 remaining ducklings. I am sorry if this post is too long, and thank you very much for reading it.View attachment 3963475

For some reason the picture of the last duckling didn't load. Here it is:

 

[Miss Lydia]

Maybe black Swedish the one with cream bib last picture looks Khaki. The other lil one is it solid black? I’m not sure on breed maybe dark Khaki or Cayuga? I’m sure others will have their thoughts too.

 

[Hamudazahabi]

Maybe black Swedish the one with cream bib last picture looks Khaki. The other lil one is it solid black? I’m not sure on breed maybe dark Khaki or Cayuga? I’m sure others will have their thoughts too.

Ok thank you. The seller claimed all of these ducklings are from the same type of ducks, and they all were from the same cage. If you have Khaki Campbell ducks, then have you ever had some Khaki Campbell ducklings have black color with yellow under?

And by the way, that one is not solid black. It is mostly black but there is a small yellow spot under it. The last one though is fully brown from all sides, which is identical to the pictures I saw of Khaki Campbell ducklings. If anyone here has Khaki Campbell ducks, I would like to know if any of your ducklings had a dark color with a bit of yellow. What's even more weird is that when I bought Khaki Campbell fertilized eggs before and used a home made incubator and they died at the end, were all solid black when I opened the eggs, so I wonder if all these sellers are selling a wrong breed and calling it Khaki Campbell or something.

 

[Hamudazahabi]

Maybe black Swedish the one with cream bib last picture looks Khaki. The other lil one is it solid black? I’m not sure on breed maybe dark Khaki or Cayuga? I’m sure others will have their thoughts too.

I just saw this in one of the websites:

And then under it says:

Maybe it's this? It also shows the picture of the adult:

I have never heard of this breed before, but if this is my ducklings, then I wonder if they lay just as much eggs or not.

 

[KathiQuacks]

I agree with Miss Lydia.
Black Swedish potentially for the black with the big, yellow bib. Dark Campbell OR Cayuga for the black with just a little bit of yellow, and Khaki Campbell for the brown.
Their breeds will be more obvious once they start getting their adult feathers in a few weeks.

Female ducklings will begin making a peep-honk sound as early as 1.5 weeks old. This sound will continue to get louder and more frequent and will be very noticeable by 4 weeks old.
Male ducklings will either not peep-honk, or they will only peep-honk for a few days before stopping. They will start developing a quiet, raspy voice at around 8 - 10 weeks old.

I’d imagine Dark Campbells would lay similarly to Khakis.

 

[Hamudazahabi]

I agree with Miss Lydia.
Black Swedish potentially for the black with the big, yellow bib. Dark Campbell OR Cayuga for the black with just a little bit of yellow, and Khaki Campbell for the brown.
Their breeds will be more obvious once they start getting their adult feathers in a few weeks.

Female ducklings will begin making a peep-honk sound as early as 1.5 weeks old. This sound will continue to get louder and more frequent and will be very noticeable by 4 weeks old.
Male ducklings will either not peep-honk, or they will only peep-honk for a few days before stopping. They will start developing a quiet, raspy voice at around 8 - 10 weeks old.

I’d imagine Dark Campbells would lay similarly to Khakis.

Thank you for helping.
As for the Black Swedish, I have searched it online and their ducklings do look very similar.

The only reason I would still be confused is that the shop had them all in the same cage and had other types in other cages, and that the cage had many black ones with yellow under, and fully black ones, and some brown ones, and he showed me a picture of Khaki Campbell and said "They will look like this when they're adult," and he named it "Egg Duck" which another shop said it is usually referring to Khaki Campbell. I wouldn't be surprised if it had dark campbells as they are also Campbells but darker, but I feel like adding a whole other type in there would be weird.

I guess I will wait for a few weeks then post a picture when they start getting new feathers or when anything unexpected happens.

As for sexing them, do these breeds have any way of sexing them based on down color? Also, if it did turn out to be black swedish, then how many eggs do they lay compared to Khaki Campbell? And do they like to get broody or not?

Thank you.

 

[KathiQuacks]

As for sexing them, do these breeds have any way of sexing them based on down color? Also, if it did turn out to be black swedish, then how many eggs do they lay compared to Khaki Campbell? And do they like to get broody or not?

Thank you.

These breeds, no. Males and females look identical when they’re young. The only ducks I can think of that are auto-sexing are Welsh Harlequins with their bill colors (not 100% accurate, though), and certain mixed ducks.

Seems like Black Swedes will lay ~150 eggs per year give or take, which is a bit less than a standard Campbell, and they are somewhat broody.

 

[DaffytheDuck20]

I agree with Miss Lydia

 

[Hamudazahabi]

These breeds, no. Males and females look identical when they’re young. The only ducks I can think of that are auto-sexing are Welsh Harlequins with their bill colors (not 100% accurate, though), and certain mixed ducks.

Seems like Black Swedes will lay ~150 eggs per year give or take, which is a bit less than a standard Campbell, and they are somewhat broody.

Ok. Thank you for all these information.