Hen with Nasty Vent Area

emmitthermitt

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6 Years
Jun 29, 2017
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This is not very urgent but all help is highly appreciated
I have a bantam hen named Brandonette that I have had for about 3 years (I do not know her exact age, but I am guessing she is 4), and is a tad bit underweight. Whenever I clean her vent area, she does eat and drink after that but typically does not when her vent is blocked. I only noticed this a week ago, and it was bad when I found it. I just never check their vent area like I do with chicks because this has never happened before. Her vent area is just covered in poop, and whenever I clean it out it slightly bleeds (I think this is more from skin opening than any internal blood). She eats layer pellets like all of my other hens do, and has 5 other bantam hens with her that are perfectly healthy, laying eggs, and pooping properly. The poop that comes out after I clean her is typically a greenish color and very runny. All I have been doing to her is rinsing the area with warm water and wiping it off, cleaning it as best I can. I do not plan on taking her to the vet and just want to treat her myself. She does not seem to be sickly, and she is acting normal other than her eating habits. Her housing is just a wired cage that sits on grass, with a box that is big enough to fit all 6 bantam hens at once.
What I have been doing for her:
rinsing her vent with warm water and carefully removing poop, and wiping her off.
giving her garlic in her food
putting baking soda in her water
gave her corid a week ago
(everything that is food/water related is done to the other hens she is with too, because I just hate to separate her for she has been with 2 of the hens since I have gotten her).
I do not know if this could have been caused due to her beak (it has been like that since I bought her, top part much shorter than the bottom), but here is a normal picture of her, and then pictures of her vent. The pictures are of before I cleaned her, and can take pictures after I clean her out if needed.
If better pictures are needed I will take more.
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I'm sorry this precious girl is giving you trouble.
Would you be willing to take just her poo to a vet to get checked for worms?
Most dog vets will check the poo for a small fee...
 
I'm sorry this precious girl is giving you trouble.
Would you be willing to take just her poo to a vet to get checked for worms?
Most dog vets will check the poo for a small fee...
I have treatment medicine for worms (I have also been giving her garlic regularly, which I think is a natural de-wormer) that I can give her and everyone she is with. If I am unable to help her, I think I will take her poop to the vet (as well as some of the poop of the hens she is with) to get it checked. I have not really thought of that, and even if worms don't pop up maybe something else will.
I also have been looking at the poop that I remove and the poop that she releases after I clean her up, and I have not seen any worms in it yet.
And I recently gave them some corid for coccidia, which I gave as soon as I saw her vent area (and I will edit my post to include that I have given her corid).
 
Cocci not usually common at this age, by now they should have already built up an immunity to Cocci. The Corid won't hurt, it's not a medicine.

I am a fan of "natural" ways, but something is obviously "wrong" with this girl so the first thing that comes to my mind is worms, from the way your described the poop.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/internal-parasites-parasitic-worms-in-chickens.66969/
A vet checking the poop is the simplest way to find out for sure.
 
Why do you put baking soda in her water?
Are you doing this daily?
Or was it a one time thing?
 
btw..you won't "see" worms in the poop...Well, the only ones ever seen are roundworms, and usually only when the chicken is infested with them.
 
I just went back to look at your pictures....
I don't have a way to zoom in to see closer but I wanted to ask you...
Is that all poop or is there some scabbing there too?
 
Cocci not usually common at this age, by now they should have already built up an immunity to Cocci. The Corid won't hurt, it's not a medicine.

I am a fan of "natural" ways, but something is obviously "wrong" with this girl so the first thing that comes to my mind is worms, from the way your described the poop.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/internal-parasites-parasitic-worms-in-chickens.66969/
A vet checking the poop is the simplest way to find out for sure.
Okay, after I treat her with the medicine for worms that I have and see no improvement, I will send her poop to the vet.
Why do you put baking soda in her water?
Are you doing this daily?
Or was it a one time thing?
I am putting some in their water due to it being hot. I heard that it can help in warm weather, and this is not something I am doing daily. Just went it gets super hot outside.
btw..you won't "see" worms in the poop...Well, the only ones ever seen are roundworms, and usually only when the chicken is infested with them.
Ah, I assumed you would always see them after treating them. I have had a hen with worms before, and after giving her garlic for a few days I have seen the worms be passed through the poop. Thank you for telling me.
I just went back to look at your pictures....
I don't have a way to zoom in to see closer but I wanted to ask you...
Is that all poop or is there some scabbing there too?
Some of it might be scabbing, like the area on the top, but it is also covered in the poop. I do put some hydrogen peroxide on the scabbing areas after I clean her as well as the area that slightly bleeds after I wipe her off. I do think that the scab is mixed with poop, though, because she generally stops bleeding after a few minutes and there is no blood collection on her when I put her back with the others, so it is possible that after she messes with it and poops, it just mixes in for one big mess.
 
It would not hurt a bit to take in some fresh droppings from overnight to a vet for testing. Dehydration can lead to constipation, but chronic constipation or even a damaged vent from laying too large an egg, being egg bound, or suffering a prolapse, could also cause contipation and pasting up. Green poops can be a sign of not eating. It might help to add a lot of water to a small bowl of feed, to tempt her to eat, and put a tsp of plain yogurt for probiotics.
 
It would not hurt a bit to take in some fresh droppings from overnight to a vet for testing. Dehydration can lead to constipation, but chronic constipation or even a damaged vent from laying too large an egg, being egg bound, or suffering a prolapse, could also cause contipation and pasting up. Green poops can be a sign of not eating. It might help to add a lot of water to a small bowl of feed, to tempt her to eat, and put a tsp of plain yogurt for probiotics.
I will put some yogurt in her food tomorrow to see how that does for her. She does eat after I clean her, so when I do that tomorrow I am sure she will chow down on anything I give her. I will also to be sure to put some water in her feed to get her to drink. I have seen her eat, but not drink.
By looking at her vent, do you think she might be egg bound or prolapsed?
 

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