I gotcha. I didn't realize those nest pads can fluff up much. I understand not wanting to keep cleaning the plastic pads too. I use plastic dish pans and put the nesting material in them. It definitely can get annoying when you have a broken thin-shelled egg problem and you have to clean them every day, but it helps to have extra so you can replace the dirty ones with ones you've already cleaned.they are very expensive, I agree! It's just between all the options what saved my sanity. One thing it has really helped with, is protecting the wooden box from the broken egg shells, that she used to always have (she's always been sort of the "special" one). The padding somewhat blocked the wood from getting saturated. I still periodically have the broken egg problem from one of my other chicks that has stopped producing so much. I have tried a plastic washable pad under different materials to help with the egg mess problem but I got tired of always having to wash the plastic pad. Anyway - after everything I've tried.....the nest pad was the winner. Yes, she does seem to want a fluffier nest, she can get that pad seriously fluffed (more than straw, etc)but she just keeps going and going and going until she rips a hole in the pad and now pushes it out of the box...I really don't know of a fluffier option....