I want chickens but Parma, Ohio prohibits it

[U_Stormcrow]

Huh, stand corrected then.

Yeah, its CRAZY the lengths they have gone to - not just to restrict chickens.

 

[MadamContrary]

Coturnix are native to Japan. Banned by Parma's Code. I didn't link the section, but if they want to enforce it, basically anything not native to Ohio they can exclude at will - even big floppy Flemish rabbits.

They have another section banning wild birds, and tame wild birds. So no blue jays, robbins, cardinals, crows...

If they want to be an @$$ about it. And seemingly, Parma wants to reserve that possibility for itself.

Yeah. I'd move for sure. Animal hating people are not good people.

 

[Iluveggers]

It would be fun to move to a house right on the town border, and get 100s of livestock, in the front yard, where everyone can see and hear it. That’s such a bull crap ordinance.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

It would be fun to move to a house right on the town border, and get 100s of livestock, in the front yard, where everyone can see and hear it. That’s such a bull crap ordinance.

I am NOT pulling the County Ordinances to help address the possibility of such a response. My suspicion is that the county isn;t much better.

But given that Cuyohoga (spelling) County can't bother to even codify their ordinances (numerous examples), I wouldn't rely on a simple search here. Nor do they seem to publish their zoning online.

 

[lana3k]

Read the code. I linked it on page one.

(a) The owning, keeping or harboring of any wild, dangerous, poisonous or exotic animal, including, but not limited to the animals listed below, is hereby prohibited within the City limits.

Parma, OH doesn't like animals. Any animals. Officially, you can't even drive thru the city with a pit bull mix in the back of your truck - even if you don't stop. The mere existence of the animal is illegal within city limits. Parma even requires dogs to be registered with the City. Nor any dog with even a drop of wolf genetics in its background.

(a) Except for guide, leader or listener dogs, or dogs in training to become guide, leader or listener dogs, registered under Ohio R.C. 955.011, and dogs kept by an institution or organization for teaching or research purposes under Ohio R.C. 955.16, no person shall own, keep or harbor a dog more than three months of age without annually registering such dog with the County Auditor. No owner/guardian of a dog, except a dog constantly confined to a registered kennel, shall fail to require the dog to wear, at all times, a valid tag issued in connection with a certificate of registration. Failure of any dog at any time to wear a valid registration tag shall be prima facie evidence of lack of registration and subject such dog to impounding and disposition as provided by Ohio R.C. 955.16.
They don't treat cats in their ordinances much better.

The only thing I didn't find, which I've seen in other Ordinances, is a limit on how many dogs, cats, rabbits, canaries, and/or parakeets one may own in one's home, but if I dig more deeply, I could likely find a section of code the city might use for that purpose.


Moreover, "fowl" means, at minimum, are any creature of the order "Galliforms". That includes "land fowl" and "game fowl", which includes game birds like Quail. But the examples they listed in the code suggest they are using "fowl" to mean the Clade, not the Order, and thus including waterfowl like geese and ducks and everything related, too.

I am little confused. So is there any type of quail I can have in Parma?
And what about rabbits?

Also what is happening with Bill 124? I was hopping it will pass for the whole Ohio . I called numerous times but no one returning my phone calls

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Rabbits appear to be allowed (the zoning specifically mentions them as domestic pets generically "rabbits"), but a separate section of the code can be read to exclude all non-native species. Even the chickens at the Homestead that gets an exemption are "Ohio's only breed by an Ohio woman"...

So you can have rabbits, caged, but be certain to stay on good terms with the neighbors, so as to avoid code enforcement.

Ohio Bill 124 was introduced in 2019, promptly referred to committee in March, where it went to die. It was pronounced deceased by automatic operation of the legislature at the end of the 2019/2020 legislative session on 12/31/2020. It will have to be reintroduced in the current session.

Additionally, OH 124 was largely restricted in effect to larger acreage parcels (5 acres plus) and similar. Local zoning still had plenty of power in smaller parcels and subdivisions. Nor did it seek to reach non-commercial activities -

(F) For purposes of division (B) of this section, "agriculture" does not include agricultural activities conducted on residential property for noncommercial purposes for an individual's personal use and enjoyment.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

And for what its worth, a similar bill was introduced in 2017, OH 175, which was also referred to committee to die. News report at the time.

I see no similar legislation introduced in the current Session in a quick keyword search.

 

[Champy831]

Would home school count? Maybe with 4H/FFA membership?

??? Seems like quite a drive twice a day.

Well I go there every morning to go to school and they pick me up from schools, so it might work out

 

[MamaChick2022]

Read the code. I linked it on page one.

(a) The owning, keeping or harboring of any wild, dangerous, poisonous or exotic animal, including, but not limited to the animals listed below, is hereby prohibited within the City limits.

Parma, OH doesn't like animals. Any animals. Officially, you can't even drive thru the city with a pit bull mix in the back of your truck - even if you don't stop. The mere existence of the animal is illegal within city limits. Parma even requires dogs to be registered with the City. Nor any dog with even a drop of wolf genetics in its background.

(a) Except for guide, leader or listener dogs, or dogs in training to become guide, leader or listener dogs, registered under Ohio R.C. 955.011, and dogs kept by an institution or organization for teaching or research purposes under Ohio R.C. 955.16, no person shall own, keep or harbor a dog more than three months of age without annually registering such dog with the County Auditor. No owner/guardian of a dog, except a dog constantly confined to a registered kennel, shall fail to require the dog to wear, at all times, a valid tag issued in connection with a certificate of registration. Failure of any dog at any time to wear a valid registration tag shall be prima facie evidence of lack of registration and subject such dog to impounding and disposition as provided by Ohio R.C. 955.16.
They don't treat cats in their ordinances much better.

The only thing I didn't find, which I've seen in other Ordinances, is a limit on how many dogs, cats, rabbits, canaries, and/or parakeets one may own in one's home, but if I dig more deeply, I could likely find a section of code the city might use for that purpose.


Moreover, "fowl" means, at minimum, are any creature of the order "Galliforms". That includes "land fowl" and "game fowl", which includes game birds like Quail. But the examples they listed in the code suggest they are using "fowl" to mean the Clade, not the Order, and thus including waterfowl like geese and ducks and everything related, too.

I know a few people in Parma and PH who want chickens, so LMK if you want to put up a fight, get petitions signed, etc. This is ridiculous, since chickens are even allowed in the city of Cleveland.

 

[IdyllwildAcres]

Not in Parma

Any future move in my lifetime will include a thorough investigation of my ability to continue my crazy chicken life.