. Do you still have the reds??? I would interested in a few if you want to sell anyAll the San Diego birds I've seen so far were chickens. But if it's like you say that their are few people with original birds, I'm curious to see pictures of them.
I don't know if you have researched up to that point, but the indians (murghi) that were imported here in the 1960's started with only a handful of birds kept by one person. The only reason why those birds are still around (50+ years later) is because they were inbred to each other. There's so few of them now that it's difficult to get them. I once bought a pair of galliformes from an older gentleman who said that he's never crossed his birds with anything. I believe him, and I will continue to keep his birds that way...because it was difficult to find pure birds like the ones he has. I recommend you do the same if you manage to get pure rjf.
There's too many mixing going around it's hard to tell. About the orange saddle, it depends on the bird and where it came from in the original habitat - some have orange while others have orange-red (similar to how some have white vs red earlobes). The pictures I've seen of the indians here in the U.S. tend to have saddles that are more orange-red.
