letargic bantam hen with possible broken egg inside her infecting, I need advice please

[beautifulchick]

Hi everyone, today my 7month old bantam hen is very letargic this is what happened and remember:
Sunday: at 5pm I'd found fresh egg in the floor below her with half of an soft eggshell (when she was roosting, the flock go to sleep at that time or early). I don't know if i did not notice the other half or it's still inside her. I gave her calcium citrate.
Monday: She was a bit letargic, but not to much. She went to roost early. She take a bath. She was silent. I gave her calcium citrate.
Tuesday: She make the sounds when to want to lay an egg, went to the nest, but there where no egg, but she acted like she used to act when she lay eggs. She was very active but took more naps in the day, but she was always with another hen taking the naps, she was foraging. I gave her calcium citrate.
Wednesday: Same as Tuesday but in the night she lay an 1cm in the night and that night she was calm and silent in the roost. I gave her calcium citrate.
Thursday: She barely make sounds, but keep eating, drinking and foraging.
Friday: She was acting on and off in the day, many naps, but she ate ant drinked water by herself and go foraging. She maked sounds sometimes like whispering. The rooster was rude when mating her one time when I saw them, maybe because she not wanted because it was sick already. She went 15:30 to sleep. But then she was bullied for the boss hen and go foraging again but
Saturday (today): It seems like woke up good but she become letargic more and more, but she is eating slowly by herself.
State:
- Not swollen
- Not discharge rigth now (she was discharging sometimes days before this happened, but she was not the only one)
- Bad breath (I notice today, I don't know about days before)
- Crop empty in the morning
- She is eating slowly, she used to eat good before this but since Monday she was eating less than before.
- Crop looks red, but a bit dried I think.
- Tail was low and low, eyes almost close but right is not low and looks better, her wings were touching the floor, but right now is better.
- No ruffled feathers.
- She is breathing with her mouth faster but she is not the only one, because it's very hot, but ocasionally everyone does it, but she does it more than others mostly when she is roosting,
- I'm not really sure but I think it hurts when I touch below her vent, however I can't feel swollen, I've compared with another hen her belly and I feel more clearly his bones but she is not underweight and I dont think her keel is sharp but sadly I cant say if the bones I feel is the posterior lateral (xiphoid)(?) .
Poops:
She was pooping sometimes big in the nights since Sunday like she was broody, sometimes a bit yellow urates, today I've found 2 dark poos but another but that looks "normal"
Worms
Tomorrow will be her second dose with albendazole, I'm not really sure but I think albendazol here is working with this kind of cestodes, she had cestodes since chick, in september I give her praziquantel, but this month before I gave her albendazol I saw proglotids and now I've not saw them.
Wheater
It's hot here but before this there were rainy days, it's very hot today.
Food
She forages, in the rainy days and after she found a lot of eartworms to eat, she eats seeds: millet, corn, sesame, wheat, grower feed(barely), sometimes fruits like banana, watermelon, orange(but since a week the didn't eat fruits), once a week they eat bread, scrambled eggs, meat.
I've been giving them vitamins since 3 days ago because of the deworming, and daily natural yogurt.
Today she ate the seeds, after that when I saw her bad I give her a bit of garlic, later watermelon, boiled rice and meat.
Other info:
She was eating starter feed for two months until three days ago that I realized it was medicated so I stopped give them, the lask week of October I was giving him "fermented" wheat but there were blood in the chicks poop so I stopped but I'm not sure if it was caused by worms or the "fermented" wheat that they love it by the way, maybe because it's hot here and it was refreshing to eat fresh food.
Now my questions are:
1.- What is the best medicine for an infection of a broken egg inside her? if possible the dosage too.
2.- Or based on the information I wrote, what I need to do based on your experience to get my hen healthy again?
3.- Another useful information
Right now I do have
- enrofloxacine 10% and it says 2 drops per Kg,
- another medicine that says "Every 100g of product contains: deamethasone 10mg, oxytetracycline clorhidrate 8g,
- I have amoxiciline on hand too if thats the best aproach.
I have read some post that says amoxiciline for reproductive issues and another posts with enrofloxacine, so I'm doubting.
(I will update the post with pictures)
Thank you for reading.

 

[alinas2010]

Hi everyone, today my 7month old bantam hen is very letargic this is what happened and remember:
Sunday: at 5pm I'd found fresh egg in the floor below her with half of an soft eggshell (when she was roosting, the flock go to sleep at that time or early). I don't know if i did not notice the other half or it's still inside her. I gave her calcium citrate.
Monday: She was a bit letargic, but not to much. She went to roost early. She take a bath. She was silent. I gave her calcium citrate.
Tuesday: She make the sounds when to want to lay an egg, went to the nest, but there where no egg, but she acted like she used to act when she lay eggs. She was very active but took more naps in the day, but she was always with another hen taking the naps, she was foraging. I gave her calcium citrate.
Wednesday: Same as Tuesday but in the night she lay an 1cm in the night and that night she was calm and silent in the roost. I gave her calcium citrate.
Thursday: She barely make sounds, but keep eating, drinking and foraging.
Friday: She was acting on and off in the day, many naps, but she ate ant drinked water by herself and go foraging. She maked sounds sometimes like whispering. The rooster was rude when mating her one time when I saw them, maybe because she not wanted because it was sick already. She went 15:30 to sleep. But then she was bullied for the boss hen and go foraging again but
Saturday (today): It seems like woke up good but she become letargic more and more, but she is eating slowly by herself.
State:
- Not swollen
- Not discharge rigth now (she was discharging sometimes days before this happened, but she was not the only one)
- Bad breath (I notice today, I don't know about days before)
- Crop empty in the morning
- She is eating slowly, she used to eat good before this but since Monday she was eating less than before.
- Crop looks red, but a bit dried I think.
- Tail was low and low, eyes almost close but right is not low and looks better, her wings were touching the floor, but right now is better.
- No ruffled feathers.
- She is breathing with her mouth faster but she is not the only one, because it's very hot, but ocasionally everyone does it, but she does it more than others mostly when she is roosting,
- I'm not really sure but I think it hurts when I touch below her vent, however I can't feel swollen, I've compared with another hen her belly and I feel more clearly his bones but she is not underweight and I dont think her keel is sharp but sadly I cant say if the bones I feel is the posterior lateral (xiphoid)(?) .
Poops:
She was pooping sometimes big in the nights since Sunday like she was broody, sometimes a bit yellow urates, today I've found 2 dark poos but another but that looks "normal"
Worms
Tomorrow will be her second dose with albendazole, I'm not really sure but I think albendazol here is working with this kind of cestodes, she had cestodes since chick, in september I give her praziquantel, but this month before I gave her albendazol I saw proglotids and now I've not saw them.
Wheater
It's hot here but before this there were rainy days, it's very hot today.
Food
She forages, in the rainy days and after she found a lot of eartworms to eat, she eats seeds: millet, corn, sesame, wheat, grower feed(barely), sometimes fruits like banana, watermelon, orange(but since a week the didn't eat fruits), once a week they eat bread, scrambled eggs, meat.
I've been giving them vitamins since 3 days ago because of the deworming, and daily natural yogurt.
Today she ate the seeds, after that when I saw her bad I give her a bit of garlic, later watermelon, boiled rice and meat.
Other info:
She was eating starter feed for two months until three days ago that I realized it was medicated so I stopped give them, the lask week of October I was giving him "fermented" wheat but there were blood in the chicks poop so I stopped but I'm not sure if it was caused by worms or the "fermented" wheat that they love it by the way, maybe because it's hot here and it was refreshing to eat fresh food.
Now my questions are:
1.- What is the best medicine for an infection of a broken egg inside her? if possible the dosage too.
2.- Or based on the information I wrote, what I need to do based on your experience to get my hen healthy again?
3.- Another useful information
Right now I do have
- enrofloxacine 10% and it says 2 drops per Kg,
- another medicine that says "Every 100g of product contains: deamethasone 10mg, oxytetracycline clorhidrate 8g,
- I have amoxiciline on hand too if thats the best aproach.
I have read some post that says amoxiciline for reproductive issues and another posts with enrofloxacine, so I'm doubting.
(I will update the post with pictures)
Thank you for reading.

I’m sorry to hear about your hen. I had a hen go through something similar. She had some underlying things going on that lead up to an egg breaking inside of her and having out of her vent in my hen’s case, but amoxicillin is what I had on hand and helped her. However, for some enrofloxacin seems to be a bit more effective for reproductive infections. If I had had that on hand, I probably would’ve tried it. I think at this point it’s up to you; if your hen is sick either one would probably help her. Can you switch her to a layer feed? That could be why she had issues to begin with and laid a soft egg that got stuck and broke.

 

[beautifulchick]

I’m sorry to hear about your hen. I had a hen go through something similar. She had some underlying things going on that lead up to an egg breaking inside of her and having out of her vent in my hen’s case, but amoxicillin is what I had on hand and helped her. However, for some enrofloxacin seems to be a bit more effective for reproductive infections. If I had had that on hand, I probably would’ve tried it. I think at this point it’s up to you; if your hen is sick either one would probably help her. Can you switch her to a layer feed? That could be why she had issues to begin with and laid a soft egg that got stuck and broke.

Thank you, there is a rooster too and a younger pullet and cockerel, and sadly I can't make them eat balanced food too much, they just eat a bit of that, they like it more the chick starter but sadly I can not give them anymore because it's medicated, they forage all day in the backyard, they have crushed eggshells too and they always eat them, however since Sunday I couldn't see if this hen was eating the eggshell. How many days you give her the amoxiciline and what dosage if you remember, please?

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Hi, I think your hen would do well if you stopped all the "treats" and just let her eat the commercial grower food, that's where all the nutrients are that she needs to be healthy. If she is not full of all the snacks she will eat the grower food, that is the best thing for her. Be sure to provide a dish of crushed granite grit for her, that helps her to digest her food, and another separate dish of oyster shell, that helps her to make strong egg shells. That's really all she needs.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Thank you, there is a rooster too and a younger pullet and cockerel, and sadly I can't make them eat balanced food too much, they just eat a bit of that, they like it more the chick starter but sadly I can not give them anymore because it's medicated, they forage all day in the backyard, they have crushed eggshells too and they always eat them, however since Sunday I couldn't see if this hen was eating the eggshell. How many days you give her the amoxiciline and what dosage if you remember, please?

It's really hard to tell if they are eating the eggshells or oyster shell since they don't need very much of them, but if you put it out there the laying hens will take what they need.

 

[alinas2010]

Thank you, there is a rooster too and a younger pullet and cockerel, and sadly I can't make them eat balanced food too much, they just eat a bit of that, they like it more the chick starter but sadly I can not give them anymore because it's medicated, they forage all day in the backyard, they have crushed eggshells too and they always eat them, however since Sunday I couldn't see if this hen was eating the eggshell. How many days you give her the amoxiciline and what dosage if you remember, please?

Oh okay I see. What about an all flock feed with oyster shell on the side? Could you try that? A balanced died does make a huge difference in laying issues. I love giving my flock treats, too, but unfortunately I have one hen who just cannot tolerate too many treats and immediately starts laying soft shells once we give too many treats. Very smart of you to give the calcium citrate vitamin daily at the first signs of trouble, though.

As for dosage on the amoxicillin, I believe it is about 57mg per pound of weight for 7-10 days. I hope it helps her.

 

[alinas2010]

Also, my hens think it’s a “treat” when I wet their feed down into a mash. You could try that every day instead of people food if you want to give them treats. If it’s is lack of access to chicken feed choices, sorry to keep heckling you. Maybe we could help you find some near you, where are you located?

 

[beautifulchick]

Hi, I think your hen would do well if you stopped all the "treats" and just let her eat the commercial grower food, that's where all the nutrients are that she needs to be healthy. If she is not full of all the snacks she will eat the grower food, that is the best thing for her. Be sure to provide a dish of crushed granite grit for her, that helps her to digest her food, and another separate dish of oyster shell, that helps her to make strong egg shells. That's really all she needs.

Thank you, there are no oyster shell where I live, I can almost be sure there are not in my country, there are not granite either, maybe for construction but they will sell in trucks maybe, but there are many pebbles where I live, because there is sand in some parts, but I've seen tiny pebbles in their poopsm sometimes, those that usually came with sand, the grower feed it's for brooders and they do not give you percentages of nutritional values because the employees does not know and the owner is not always there, there are food for roosters but it's only seeds, even I've read bread in the label, people that have chickens for "pets" give only corn and chicken scrapes, when I get the mom of this chicken (she is alive) I've ask the vendor what she was eating and she says fruits sometimes (here people have fruit trees in their house) corn and rice and whatever she finds in her backyard.

 

[beautifulchick]

Oh okay I see. What about an all flock feed with oyster shell on the side? Could you try that? A balanced died does make a huge difference in laying issues. I love giving my flock treats, too, but unfortunately I have one hen who just cannot tolerate too many treats and immediately starts laying soft shells once we give too many treats. Very smart of you to give the calcium citrate vitamin daily at the first signs of trouble, though.

As for dosage on the amoxicillin, I believe it is about 57mg per pound of weight for 7-10 days. I hope it helps her.

There are not all flock feed, there are not pet chickens where I live, there are food for rooster they sell mixed seeds (corn, sunflower, weath, sorghum and two more that I don't know the name), for broilers and layers, and there are not oyster shell either, and in those feeds that is suposse to have all nutrients I've found pet food (one time), plastic bag thread (In all of them, I've buyed in 4 differents vendors) and straws, the ones whe sell the foods are the same that sells you the seeds, and one time I've found mouse poop in the seeds, and one time when I buyed starter feed I gave it to a pullet she was pooping very green poop and diarrhea sow it went to the trash can, I'm glad the little chicks didn's want to and mama hen neither.
So as you can see is not that I want to give them treats, I don't have too many options. Thank you for dosage, I'll try to measure in my balance, it's not high precision and I have 500mg capsules and 1g tablets, if I cant, I will have to go with enrofloxacine.

 

[beautifulchick]

Also, my hens think it’s a “treat” when I wet their feed down into a mash. You could try that every day instead of people food if you want to give them treats. If it’s is lack of access to chicken feed choices, sorry to keep heckling you. Maybe we could help you find some near you, where are you located?

I'm in Bolivia in a very small city, far from main cities, and the only chances I can find more things for chickens is in the three main capital cities, not even capital cities gave you chances of find variety in products of any kind, here chickens are mostly for eggs and meat, and maybe rooster for fights.