Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[NewToFarming]

Kev, I wanted to post some pics of the roosters that I want to use over this pullet.Would like some feedback from you and the others on these males and what I can expect in their offspring.Pics 1 and 2 are frizzle polish(gold laced/tolblunt split) X easter egger. Pics 3 and 4 frizzle polish(gold laced/tolblunt split) X Spangled game. Pics 4,5,6 frizzle polish(gold laced/tolblunt split X Blue cuckoo olive egger. Pic 7 is the frizzle polish rooster(gold laced/tolblunt split) I plan to use this polish rooster and other polish roosters that are mixed color breeding that I do not have pics of.Thanks in advance for your replies and feedback.

Man this is a toughie Georgiaboy!!! They are all nice looking roos! The first actually reminds me of how one of my silkie mixes would look if he was frizzled! Number 1 I like because it looks like a partridge color but with lacing in his breast. The boy in the number 3 picture is gorgeous as well. If you are striving to increase the crest size, I might go with the last boy. But with all these good looking roos, it is a tough call!

 

[NewToFarming]

Hey, I need some Turken experts to look at Teddy! Not sure if she is a girl or a boy... EE/Turken/Silkie mix.

He is a cute little one! He is still kind of young yet and with the silkie in him, it makes it even harder to sex sometimes. But if I had to guess right now, I would say boy. His comb is looking pretty wide for a girl that age.

 

[Kev]

Cool birds!

Kev, I wanted to post some pics of the roosters that I want to use over this pullet.Would like some feedback from you and the others on these males and what I can expect in their offspring.Pics 1 and 2 are frizzle polish(gold laced/tolblunt split) X easter egger. Pics 3 and 4 frizzle polish(gold laced/tolblunt split) X Spangled game. Pics 4,5,6 frizzle polish(gold laced/tolblunt split X Blue cuckoo olive egger. Pic 7 is the frizzle polish rooster(gold laced/tolblunt split) I plan to use this polish rooster and other polish roosters that are mixed color breeding that I do not have pics of.Thanks in advance for your replies and feedback.


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This seems to be excellent one for getting away from tolbunt/laced... he seems to have a duckwing(frizzle makes it hard to tell the pattern sometimes..). If he's duckwing, this roo with your new hen would make a duckwinged or wheaten(you can do both if he's a duckwing and she's a wheaten) line. He's also blue and has some genes for deepening red, may create interesting colors. Him being frizzle is a bonus for keeping an extra dash of variety in the chicks. been a while since I checked, duckwings in polish is very uncommon? He will be one of the two top picks for matching the pullet's color if you want more like her.





I don't know about using tolbunt with a light chested hen(I wonder if the end result would be extremely light colored birds- combination of mottle + very light body color?), but you might try him too as he got the popularity vote.





personally would use THIS rooster for sure if goal was as diverse color as possible. he's duck winged, barred, silver and blue plus frizzle. You could even go in several directions using him, such as red or silver duckwing polish or crested NN.. also crele(which is red duckwing plus barring) or even silver crele.. both with or without blue. Already quite a variety but there will be a lot more chicks in all sorts of colors and combinations, especially in the second generation. He also seems to possibly have some kind of diluter, could be effect of blue plus silver but if he does have a diluter, could make even more shades of colors in future offspring. But, you could have some fun putting him over tolbunt hens too... imagine all his color genes combined with tolbunt genes in all sort of combinations.... some will be nearly solid white or even more or less autosexing- supposedly mottle plus barring on duckwing gives you very light roosters(almost all white) and highly mottled hens. (fifty-five flowery hens if you've heard of them) Bottom line- this is the top pick for a varied colors in chicks, especially if you want to have something other than laced/tolbunts in the yard. He is probably the top pick if you wanted to make more of the pullet's particular color. (if my guess about her probably being wheaten or duckwing with silver is more or less correct, that is..)



If he's dominant white, it might be interesting to see what it does to tolbunt.. may make too white birds with small patches of buff on each feather.

You know what, if the up swept feathers on that pullet's cap(behind the crest) is heritable, adding frizzle might make the hairdos 'extra curly'..?

Question for all: every crested cross/mix I've produced had crests more or less like the hoodas(houdan/NN cross) posted earlier. The crest feathers pointed up or backwards and on those with bigger crests, they made a regular 'ball' like on polish.. and the "non crested feathers" on cap were always normal/flat on the head(frizzle doesn't count). I cannot remember a bird with feathers on the cap behind the crest sticking up like on this pullet:



I think she has the most amazing cap I've seen on a NN! Has anybody else seen a pullet/hen crest with feathers like this? some roosters naturally have a crest with feathers that go everywhere, but not on a pullet/hen....

 

[queenchick16]

Kevin I find that birds crest amazing too. I think the parents should be tracked down if possible. The auctioneer should have that info since it was a livestock auction, yes? The beauty of genetics.....

 

[Kev]

Kevin I find that birds crest amazing too. I think the parents should be tracked down if possible. The auctioneer should have that info since it was a livestock auction, yes? The beauty of genetics.....

That could be worth a try & certainly be nice to have the parentage/breeds involved settled for once... or see if the seller has more like her, which would prove it's heritable.

In cases where the parents cannot be tracked or it's truly the only one, usually a linebreeding is called for- animal with 'something new' is bred then offspring is bred back with it. especially if the mutation is a recessive and doesn't show up in a cross.

inbreeding might be uncomfortable to some, sometimes it's the only way to preserve a new trait.

 

[Chicken Frenzie]

He is a cute little one! He is still kind of young yet and with the silkie in him, it makes it even harder to sex sometimes. But if I had to guess right now, I would say boy. His comb is looking pretty wide for a girl that age.

\Yeah.. the weird thing is it's been that wide since he was born! It hasn't changed a bit.

 

[Georgia Boy 1970]

Knock Kneed Hen and NewToFarming thanks for your appreciation of my birds.I will pair the spangled rooster with the buff colored naked neck X Polish pullet out of my red crested red polish hen and the black tailed naked neck rooster. Kev thanks for your help in my selection of what rooster to use with my hen. When the time comes to set this hen up in a breeding pen she will be paired with the cuckoo frizzle rooster first,since I want lots of variety. I'm hoping that she will be a good layer so I can pair her with several males.

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

Knock Kneed Hen and NewToFarming thanks for your appreciation of my birds.I will pair the spangled rooster with the buff colored naked neck X Polish pullet out of my red crested red polish hen and the black tailed naked neck rooster. Kev thanks for your help in my selection of what rooster to use with my hen. When the time comes to set this hen up in a breeding pen she will be paired with the cuckoo frizzle rooster first,since I want lots of variety. I'm hoping that she will be a good layer so I can pair her with several males.

Ahhh, can't wait to see the result of these pairings. I truly hate when we're forced to limit our choices. I think you'd could go with any of them. I'd be happy to have any of them!

 

[Kassaundra]

I have NN eggs ready to go in the bator on Monday. These are the ones from the U of A.

 

[maralpz2006]

i think my young nn roo his colors is gonna be splash