People with multiple roosters, advice needed.

[z3lda3]

BBS means Blue, Black and Splash. When paired together they hatch like this.View attachment 4046921

The breeder I got the BBS Silvers from has Recessive White in their flock so the occasional white bird also pops up. Think of it as a bonus 4th color if you want to breed white to white. (Simply put)
So technically speaking he is either a Black or Blue Silver but he's recessive White. He's hiding the black or blue.
By hiding the blue or black underneath, I have to test mate him to find out.
So using the graph above, by mating him to my Black Silver girl, if all chicks hatch out Black Silvers he's hiding Black. If I get a mix of some hatch out Black Silvers and some Blue Silvers that means he's hiding Blue.

My hope is he's hiding Blue.

So is kinda like.. ok my Snow White Cochin bantam and my cream crested legbar had (pic included) an obvious barred. I have 0 barred chickens. So somewhere there’s barred in someone’s line. Or is it like 2 brown eyed ppl can have a blue eyed baby but 2 blue eyed ppl can’t have a brown eyed baby.

 

[wrathsfarm]

Oh leakage....forgot about that. I'm not a genetics wizard so someone more knowledgeable please correct anything if I'm mistaken.

Black Coppers are gold based.
Black Silvers are silver based.

These colors don't play well together in breeding.
By mating a gold based roo to a Silver based hen (this example Black Copper roo x Black Silver hen). All females will be Black Coppers coming from Kong, the males will be Copper but have Silver leakage. (Looks like dirty dish water)
Here's a accidental visual...
Had a chick hatch accidentally from King (Black Copper- gold based) and a Silver Laced Wyandotte (silver based)

You can see the copper mixed in with the silver in this male. Dirty look.

Cull means to remove from the flock. (kill, eat, sell, re-home). I sell all my culls.

 

[wrathsfarm]

So is kinda like.. ok my Snow White Cochin bantam and my cream crested legbar had (pic included) an obvious barred. I have 0 barred chickens. So somewhere there’s barred in someone’s line. Or is it like 2 brown eyed ppl can have a blue eyed baby but 2 blue eyed ppl can’t have a brown eyed baby.

Don't quote me on this as again I'm not an expert. But I believe the barring is from your Legbar.

Edited to add. Especially coming from the hen as she would pass it to her son's.

 

[z3lda3]

Oh leakage....forgot about that. I'm not a genetics wizard so someone more knowledgeable please correct anything if I'm mistaken.

Black Coppers are gold based.
Black Silvers are silver based.

These colors don't play well together in breeding.
By mating a gold based roo to a Silver based hen (this example Black Copper roo x Black Silver hen). All females will be Black Coppers coming from Kong, the males will be Copper but have Silver leakage. (Looks like dirty dish water)
Here's a accidental visual...
Had a chick hatch accidentally from King (Black Copper- gold based) and a Silver Laced Wyandotte (silver based)

You can see the copper mixed in with the silver in this male. Dirty look.View attachment 4046944


Cull means to remove from the flock. (kill, eat, sell, re-home). I sell all my culls.

Don't quote me on this as again I'm not an expert. But I believe the barring is from your Legbar.

Edited to add. Especially coming from the hen as she would pass it to her son's.

Hm so one of my Rhode Island Red hen and my little Cochin had a roo that’s red with a sprig of black, he looks like his mama. So what is passed from my little Cochin rooster? I mean what do the males pass along? Or is it that specific?

 

[FrostRanger]

Bachelor flocks *can* work, but you must have a plan b in place 'cause things can go sour at a moment's notice. For now, see how it goes and make sure they have more than enough room with plenty of clutter. Hopefully things will continue to work

 

[z3lda3]

Bachelor flocks *can* work, but you must have a plan b in place 'cause things can go sour at a moment's notice. For now, see how it goes and make sure they have more than enough room with plenty of clutter. Hopefully things will continue to work

Plan b? I’ve barely got plan A. I’ve got a mini coop situation in my basement. We had hurricanes and tornadoes this past year, so I set up a chicken camp in my basement just in case. If things go south I can put whoever in there, temporarily of course. Worst case what do I do? Just have one lone rooster by himself because he can’t chill out? That doesn’t seem right..sigh surly there’s a way..

 

[FrostRanger]

Plan b? I’ve barely got plan A. I’ve got a mini coop situation in my basement. We had hurricanes and tornadoes this past year, so I set up a chicken camp in my basement just in case. If things go south I can put whoever in there, temporarily of course. Worst case what do I do? Just have one lone rooster by himself because he can’t chill out? That doesn’t seem right..sigh surly there’s a way..

The most immediate need would be a way to separate everyone (or at least a few birds) at a moment's notice, after that you're going to need a plan to deal with any birds that just won't get along. With roosters once they start fighting either they settle the matter and things calm down or they keep fighting until someone is dead. In the latter case the only real solution is permanent separation. Bachelor flocks can go three ways, either they work, they don't or they work until they don't and how it goes largely depends on the individual birds involved. Yes, having a good setup skews the odds in your favor but some roos simply will not tolerate other roos no matter what you do and some individuals simply won't tolerate another individual roo no matter what you do. Hopefully your birds will continue to get along, but you must be prepared in case they suddenly decide they hate each other

 

[z3lda3]

The most immediate need would be a way to separate everyone (or at least a few birds) at a moment's notice, after that you're going to need a plan to deal with any birds that just won't get along. With roosters once they start fighting either they settle the matter and things calm down or they keep fighting until someone is dead. In the latter case the only real solution is permanent separation. Bachelor flocks can go three ways, either they work, they don't or they work until they don't and how it goes largely depends on the individual birds involved. Yes, having a good setup skews the odds in your favor but some roos simply will not tolerate other roos no matter what you do and some individuals simply won't tolerate another individual roo no matter what you do. Hopefully your birds will continue to get along, but you must be prepared in case they suddenly decide they hate each other

One rooster wakes up looks at another one and is like “I hate looking at your face!”
Someone on YouTube or something suggested flower essence oil behind their ears. Uh I’ve seen my Roos go at it, there’s not enough flowers in the world going to calm them down. But I tried it anyway, all it did was make my boys smell really good. I guess I’ll do my best, hope for best and prepare for the worst.

 

[McChooky]

Hi, let me start this by saying I love roosters, I think they’re awesome. I’m in a pickle here. I’ve got 23 hens, and 5 roosters. My primary rooster is a bantam Cochin, my secondary is a huge brahma. My third in command is a bantam old English. And 2 cockerels about 4 months old. The cockerels are in that horrible amped up “randy” stage, so I’ve separated them from the flock. My Brahma roo has been bucking up on my primary bantam. He could kill my little Cochin, so he’s in with the cockerels. (They don’t fight, they actually get along). My old English doesn’t do much of anything except dance around my hens. Even if he was to buck up on my little Cochin, they’re almost the same size, with little nubby talons.
Anyway my question- is it possible to have a bachelor flock as well as a regular flock? I’d separate the flocks of course. I’d like to keep all my Roos, any ideas? I’ve got plenty of yard space, 3 coops, and a run about 4x10x30. My two cockerels hang out there during the day.

I considered keeping a bachelor flock myself once because I love roosters but decided against it. Having a rooster and regular flock both means keeping 2 spare coops and run for any guys who get beat up and any girls who need separating ( I don't have a lot of room). No matter how well your bachelor flock works or how hard you try you will eventually have to get rid of one because they won't get a long indefinitely.Wishing you the best!

 

[wrathsfarm]

Hm so one of my Rhode Island Red hen and my little Cochin had a roo that’s red with a sprig of black, he looks like his mama. So what is passed from my little Cochin rooster? I mean what do the males pass along? Or is it that specific?

I'm not deep enough into genetics yet to provide an accurate answer to this.