PFAS - Do you care?

[saysfaa]

A lot of people get worried about the small obscure stuff while ignoring threats right in their face. Worried about this kind of stuff while being 50 pounds overweight and in real danger of multiple aliments.
... But that isn't what is going to make your life hell and kill you.

Except it isn't small or obscure -as a whole; it probably is for any given single diagnosis.

I think it contributes to the weight and multiple ailments issues. Maybe not in isolation (as in lab conditions testing of single aspects for single effects) but as it is used in the real world.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Nope.

[boils down to limited current exposure, already "on in years" so most of my exposure is already done, have done what I reasonably can to control future exposure, and better risk/reward ratio from efforts focused on other issues]

 

[Fallenone05]

As long as plastic is cheap to make, I don't see any real changes being made. Unless Tupperware takes on the merc position and takes out another ceo, I don't see any change happening at all.

 

[FrostRanger]

Hmm, i'm in the middle of the road. I do care in the sense that we should move away from using PFAs in manufacturing but I also don't worry about things beyond my control too much. Stress is a known cause of many short and long term ailments and just plain makes life miserable. I generally prefer metal stuff anyways, but I still use plastic where it makes sense

 

[Sally PB]

[boils down to limited current exposure, already "on in years" so most of my exposure is already done, have done what I reasonably can to control future exposure, and better risk/reward ratio from efforts focused on other issues]

Same.

The greater Grand Rapids area has many places where PFAS contaminated waste was dumped for years. There are a lot of people with property/homes that they might never be able to sell.

If they ever find such a dump within my watershed, I'm stuck, but I plan to live the rest of my life here anyway.

I'd say I'm more concerned for the generations to come. Sorry kids and grandkids, you're inheriting the mess.

 

[Al Gerhart]

People love to virtue signal and moan about plastic and chemicals without thinking what their lives would be without these products. No plastic liners, shelf life of canned goods and its quality plummets. Glass mason jars on rusty metal screw on water trays instead of easy to clean and unbreakable plastic. No medicine pill bottles, go back to paper envelopes the kiddies can get into I suppose.

Or put the big mac down from your greasy fist and take a walk instead of watching Oprah.

Manage your risks where you can and consider why we went to disposable products. Why we started using plastic and chemicals. Ask why our life expectancy has skyrocketed.

 

[Evadig]

Manage your risks where you can and consider why we went to disposable products. Why we started using plastic and chemicals. Ask why our life expectancy has skyrocketed.

Not to argue, but I don't think disposable products are a good thing. It might be more convenient but I feel it has been one of the causes of the massive amount of junk in the stores. Everything is made to be disposable now. There's no quality in anything. And it's bad for the environment but I won't go there.

And I would hardly say our life expectancy has skyrocketed. People might live longer overall but there's often no quality of life. Look at the obesity and the drugs and the cancer. I've lost several family members in the last five years, people who should still be alive right now. And humans might live longer, but at what cost? To spend their last days in a nursing home? I'd rather not.

I admit I do use plastics but I am working on cutting them them out of my life as much as possible. Please know I didn't want to start an argument and I'm sorry if I've been impolite. Thank you .

 

[AGeese]

Same.

The greater Grand Rapids area has many places where PFAS contaminated waste was dumped for years. There are a lot of people with property/homes that they might never be able to sell.

If they ever find such a dump within my watershed, I'm stuck, but I plan to live the rest of my life here anyway.

I'd say I'm more concerned for the generations to come. Sorry kids and grandkids, you're inheriting the mess.

So something I've heard is that some of these chemcials are generational. Meaning that, what the chemicals your great grandmother was exposed to were passed on to you. So your apology to your grandchildren might be warranted.

People love to virtue signal and moan about plastic and chemicals without thinking what their lives would be without these products. No plastic liners, shelf life of canned goods and its quality plummets. Glass mason jars on rusty metal screw on water trays instead of easy to clean and unbreakable plastic. No medicine pill bottles, go back to paper envelopes the kiddies can get into I suppose.

Or put the big mac down from your greasy fist and take a walk instead of watching Oprah.

Manage your risks where you can and consider why we went to disposable products. Why we started using plastic and chemicals. Ask why our life expectancy has skyrocketed.

I tend to look at it like the industrial revolution. I don't think people set out to create polution. They set out to create a solution and later find some unintended consquences. But any time lots of money is involved things get pretty complicated.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Life expectancy HAS skyrocketed.

and by any objective measure, the vast majority of people ARE better off.

The only people who pine for the imagined "simpler days of honest labor" haven't lived that reality - which for most was barely better than hand to mouth with physical toil the likes of which only a very few perform today.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Which is not to say we can't learn from the mistakes we have made along the way and do better. We rarely do - but what little progress we have made as a species has come from recognizing the flaws in past practice and finding a different way. Sometimes, its better. Mostly, its just different. We've not made a lot of progress, actually.