PFAS - Do you care?

[AGeese]

Life expectancy HAS skyrocketed.

and by any objective measure, the vast majority of people ARE better off.

The only people who pine for the imagined "simpler days of honest labor" haven't lived that reality - which for most was barely better than hand to mouth with physical toil the likes of which only a very few perform today.

It seems to have for the states over the last 150 years, but... I can't really say I know many greats that didn't live as long. In fact it seems there have been many more health issues (at least that I'm ware of) with genertionally closer family. The other side to that is what killed them? Their coal mining job or their desk job?

But it would depend on what age, diet, and culture we want to compare to. There's some evidence of stone age people living to the ripe old age of 80, granted they would have been a lot tougher than any of us, and may have even stayed behind to die when the time came. But the modern 1st world lifesytle of sitting in the chair is all day and night, over eating nutritional poor food, and not getting fresh air and sun light seems to correlate with diesease.

 

[5Australorpasaures]

We have been poisoning ourselves for decades if not centuries and it will probably take longer to rid ourselves of them. Pretty much makes the slogan "Better Living through Chemistry" moot. Myself, I don't concern myself, just another band wagon coming down the pike.

 

[AGeese]

We have been poisoning ourselves for decades if not centuries and it will probably take longer to rid ourselves of them. Pretty much makes the slogan "Better Living through Chemistry" moot. Myself, I don't concern myself, just another band wagon coming down the pike.

To your point, havin been around some decades I've noticed movements, causes, and trends acquire new branding.

 

[5Australorpasaures]

To your point, havin been around some decades I've noticed movements, causes, and trends acquire new branding.

Sorta like global warming is now the cutesy climate change. Not as severe as cooking slowly. Put a ring in my nose and lead me to the slaughter house!

 

[AGeese]

Sorta like global warming is now the cutesy climate change. Not as severe as cooking slowly. Put a ring in my nose and lead me to the slaughter house!

Before global warming it was the Green House Effect

 

[SkyAJK]

Don't get me started on those unfriendly stuff.
I used to listen to various channels about repurpose stuff...and before long I saw tiny plastics in my garden, my chickens eat many of those micro plastic and there is no way to prevent it.

The plastic plant pots breakdown by turned into powdery texture, the plastic taps that to block rain breakdowns and by the time I see that it was not removable from the ground.

Those cheap metal trellis in the garden rusted and those tiny size rusts fall into the ground. I am certain my chickens eat them somehow and whatever I eat their eggs. I feel there is no future whenever I think about it. That is just household uses let alone big corporation.

One way or another, we contaminated our environment publicly or privately, and we consumed it one way or another. We will live to 100 or 100+, but we will experience ill health with that old age. Very negative thought, I don't think about it anymore.

 

[notabitail]

Don't get me started on those unfriendly stuff.
I used to listen to various channels about repurpose stuff...and before long I saw tiny plastics in my garden, my chickens eat many of those micro plastic and there is no way to prevent it.

The plastic plant pots breakdown by turned into powdery texture, the plastic taps that to block rain breakdowns and by the time I see that it was not removable from the ground.

Those cheap metal trellis in the garden rusted and those tiny size rusts fall into the ground. I am certain my chickens eat them somehow and whatever I eat their eggs. I feel there is no future whenever I think about it. That is just household uses let alone big corporation.

One way or another, we contaminated our environment publicly or privately, and we consumed it one way or another. We will live to 100 or 100+, but we will experience ill health with that old age. Very negative thought, I don't think about it anymore.

There are tons of microplastics in my yard and in farms here in Texas. I've seen it with my owe eyes.

 

[saysfaa]

Life expectancy HAS skyrocketed.

Life expectancy has skyrocketed because people usually survive their first five years. That isn't all of it but it is most of it.

and by any objective measure, the vast majority of people ARE better off.

Percentage of the population who are obese is an objective measurement.

The only people who pine for the imagined "simpler days of honest labor" haven't lived that reality - which for most was barely better than hand to mouth with physical toil the likes of which only a very few perform today.

Red herring.
Seeing benefit in reducing the use of plastic can be done without pining for past "days" of any kind.

 

[BantyChooks]

To some extent. I avoid plastic for hot foods, use stainless steel pans, don’t use cosmetics, and think about the food I eat, e.g. pizza has PFAS in some boxes, so I consider that when choosing a “fun dinner” now and then. Plus, it’s pizza. Not exactly health food - seed oils and very processed. I’ll happily chow down on a homemade one.

I don’t put a lot of effort or really any anxiety into it. It’s a back of the napkin thought to make swaps if it’s easy enough. I focus more on the basics, like daily movement and maintaining muscle mass, and eating whole foods. That said, I recognise the impact of various chemicals in sometimes delicate or less apparent ways, such as inflammatory responses and microbiome, and I think overlooking it completely would be a mistake.

 

[BantyChooks]

Oh, and in terms of relation to the forum, I feed my chickens in wooden and ceramic bowls, but I do use rubber bowls for water - a necessity for cold climates. Also a polymer, sure, but it feels better to have one rubber bowl that lasts 10 or 20 years instead of a plastic bowl that shatters after a winter.