red hot peppers or flakes in the ducks water??

[Jenbirdee]

I have a big jar on the counter with apple cider vinegar(with the mother) and I added crushed garlic to let it sit for a day and then start using it 1 tablespoon per gallon in ducks water buckets , can I add hot peppers??
would not that hurt their little eyes?

 

[U_Stormcrow]

You can, but why would you want to? It will have no useful or practical effect, except perhaps to provide you some satisfaction that you are doing something claimed to be helpful by some anonymous voice on the internet. Its also a (minor) disease vector - but so are the other things you are doing so I assume that's an acceptable risk (and really, its a pretty minor one).

Quality Feed. Fresh clean water. Frequent water changes. Practical shelter with good ventilation. That is all.

I see, daily, people repeating things on Youtube, Facebook, etc said to be natural remedies based on some poorly understood science. The dosage is the poison. Underdose for an extended period of time, you do nothing but create resistant varieties of whatever. Overdose, and there are real potential health consequences. But just because garlic or red pepper flake, or oregano, or cinnamon or whatever have some antibacterial or antifungal compounds in some trace quantity does not mean that adding some tiny amount to your bird's food or water will somehow be a miracle cure all (or even an effect preventative). Were it otherwise, you could walk by a pharmacy counter and be suddenly cured of every malady, just by the trace parts of purified compounds floating in the air at parts per trillion concentration. That's not at all how nature has been shown to work, since time immemorial.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

[apologies for any implied tone. It is NOT directed at you @Jenbirdee with your honest question. "Trust but verify" is a very reasonable position to take, and for which I commend you. Its been a frustrating morning for me, and its bleeding thru more than intended.]

 

[Jenbirdee]

[apologies for any implied tone. It is NOT directed at you @Jenbirdee with your honest question. "Trust but verify" is a very reasonable position to take, and for which I commend you. Its been a frustrating morning for me, and its bleeding thru more than intended.]

that’s ok i understand.
One of my ducks tested positive for aspergillosis and I can’t afford the vet so I was trying to find alternate treatments (you asked why)

 

[Crazy Maizie]

I don't think I'd put it in their water. You could add it to feed. There are studies for adding capsaicin for pain management in birds (poultry) as well as for use in humans. I use capsaicin for arthritic aches and pains.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

I can recommend only palliative care and extend my hopes your bird can overcome the infection with time. I don't know of any household antifungals for internal use readily repurposed for duck care. The only antifungals we keep on hand in the house are topical. Fluconazole, I think, requires an Rx (please don't quote me on that).

You might try posting on the illness/injury board here on BYC - what I don't know on those subjects would fill volumes (and does). I try and keep my comments to feed/additives, sometimes coop building, soil amendment, and zoning. No one can learn it all.

 

[Jenbirdee]

I don't think I'd put it in their water. You could add it to feed. There are studies for adding capsaicin for pain management in birds (poultry) as well as for use in humans. I use capsaicin for arthritic aches and pains.

ok red pepper flakes in the feed i can do that i feed pellets , nutrena nature wise all flock. and mazuri floating waterfowl feed as treats. so obviously it can’t go with the Mazuri because it would just be floating in the water anyway. I’ll put a little in the pellets and see if they eat any. Maybe I have to make a mash.

 

[Jenbirdee]

I can recommend only palliative care and extend my hopes your bird can overcome the infection with time. I don't know of any household antifungals for internal use readily repurposed for duck care. The only antifungals we keep on hand in the house are topical. Fluconazole, I think, requires an Rx (please don't quote me on that).

You might try posting on the illness/injury board here on BYC - what I don't know on those subjects would fill volumes (and does). I try and keep my comments to feed/additives, sometimes coop building, soil amendment, and zoning. No one can learn it all.

yes, there are actually a few things that have been recommended by the majestic waterfall sanctuary, and even some veterinarians now know about these, oxine ah and something called F10 I have been using oxine AH with her on and off for six months now and it makes a big difference in her breathing. I give it by nebulizer treatments. Of course it has to be properly diluted. and no activator for inhaling use. and yes there are antifungal such as the flucinazole i world love to have some but you’re right a prescription is needed. I would like to take her to my vet, but at this time it’s not possible.