Rescue Pekin sounds like a guinnea pig???

[Miss Lydia]

Thanks! I'm still trying to decide what to do about this since I've never seen any indications of worms. Is there a reason you choose the end of October? My vet said it doesn't hurt to do it in April and October. I didn't understand the April part since that's the middle of our laying season, but I didn't even think to ask about that because my focus was on the sick duck.

I just do my water fowl by a reputable goose breeder s info she use to come on BYC raises Sebastopol geese but she had alot of health problems and I haven't seen her at all this year. But she says you worm before breeding season for geese, and since all my flock share feeders I figure this is the best time to worm for the year. no one is laying and I mix the wormer into their feed for 5 days. [safe Guard for sheep] @casportpony speaks highly of it.
Wazine kills only round worms. I used numerous other Natural products from the worm pellets can't remember the name right now they are from UK to DE but my chickens still got round worms. and k says Safe guard is very safe so I use it on the ducks and geese since I can mix it into their feed and Valbazen at the other 2 times since I can use a small needleless syringe to treat all my chickens with. I will not stick my hand inside my gooses mouth.

 

[jducour]

@Miss Lydia where do you buy the Safeguard? Is it the kind sold in pet stores for dogs?

 

[Miss Lydia]

@Miss Lydia where do you buy the Safeguard? Is it the kind sold in pet stores for dogs?

It is the same thing but you can get the kind I use the liquid or paste at feed stores the paste is for horses and comes in a long syringe and I have used it a few times but when you have so many to worm isn't feasible so I get the liquid now. for goats When I wormed my dogs a while back I talked with casportpony and she said I could just use the same safeguard for goats I use for the flock. so I did. I haven't heard of quacks meaning their could be parasites, when my lil roo got gape worms he lost his crow completely.

 

[JadeComputerGal]

I just do my water fowl by a reputable goose breeder s info she use to come on BYC raises Sebastopol geese but she had alot of health problems and I haven't seen her at all this year. But she says you worm before breeding season for geese, and since all my flock share feeders I figure this is the best time to worm for the year. no one is laying and I mix the wormer into their feed for 5 days. [safe Guard for sheep] @casportpony speaks highly of it.
Wazine kills only round worms. I used numerous other Natural products from the worm pellets can't remember the name right now they are from UK to DE but my chickens still got round worms. and k says Safe guard is very safe so I use it on the ducks and geese since I can mix it into their feed and Valbazen at the other 2 times since I can use a small needleless syringe to treat all my chickens with. I will not stick my hand inside my gooses mouth.

I think I might try what you do with the October only. I know I don't want to do it during laying season. I'm really leaning toward a topical because I don't want to give my sick little girl something like that, assuming she even survives for that long.

 

[jducour]

Next question: is it safe to eat their eggs during treatment?

 

[casportpony]

Worms, wormers and fecals...

Of course I'm all for having fecals done, but one will often get false negatives, and I can point you to a thread where someone almost lost their peahen to capillary worms and coccidia because of a false negative.

Most worms are too small to see and the different types of worms can live the esophagus, crop, proventriculas, gizzard, intestines and I think there is a fluke the lives in the repro tract.

Wazine (piperazine) treats large roundworms, that's it.

Safeguard (fenbendazole) will treat almost all worms, but must be given several days in a row at a fairly high dose.

Valbazen (albendazole) will treat almost all worms with just one dose. For gapeworms, I think it's three days.

Ivermectin is no longer an effective poultry wormer and I can point you to necropsy pictures of birds that were treated with it. Can also post links of studies on it.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Next question: is it safe to eat their eggs during treatment?

Most wait two weeks after last treatment.

-Kathy

 

[jducour]

Ok, knowing all of that now - I am on the fence about just treating her. I would hate to throw away eggs for two weeks for no reason. That would be 6+ dozen eggs lost. Maybe I will just keep a close eye on her for a while, and see if there are any other symptoms. Like I said, she seems perfectly healthy - good weight, clear eyes, bill, legs, good feather quality. Maybe I am jumping the gun here?

 

[jducour]

Ok, I found a large animal vet that doesn't specialize in birds, and doesn't see ducks - BUT - they will run a fecal sample for me and give me the results for $25. That seems fair. I think that will be my next step. Thanks for the help everyone! I will come back with the results - hopefully later today.

 

[JadeComputerGal]

Worms, wormers and fecals...

Of course I'm all for having fecals done, but one will often get false negatives, and I can point you to a thread where someone almost lost their peahen to capillary worms and coccidia because of a false negative.

Most worms are too small to see and the different types of worms can live the esophagus, crop, proventriculas, gizzard, intestines and I think there is a fluke the lives in the repro tract.

Wazine (piperazine) treats large roundworms, that's it.

Safeguard (fenbendazole) will treat almost all worms, but must be given several days in a row at a fairly high dose.

Valbazen (albendazole) will treat almost all worms with just one dose. For gapeworms, I think it's three days.

Ivermectin is no longer an effective poultry wormer and I can point you to necropsy pictures of birds that were treated with it. Can also post links of studies on it.

-Kathy

I'm switching vets.