Should there be some kind of oversight required?

[5Australorpasaures]

It's more than just stupid. Heartless, ignorant, reprehensible, reckless,...

Tell us how you really feel.

 

[Backroadlogic]

Regulation would just create a black market and it would cause people to stop asking for help out of fear of being reported

 

[Stitchaquilt3]

I have to agree, a lot of people just don't think. I myself researched "Raising Chickens" for about six months before I got any. I read everything I could find. My husband thought I was crazy. I am so glad I did. I can't imagine going into this blind.
Last summer I had a hen hatch eggs and it was great watching her raise those chicks right in with the Flock.
This year I chose to buy chicks and introduce them to the Flock myself. It was much easier than I expected.

 

[Gezellige_Poes]

Tell us how you really feel.

The reprehensibly cruel treatment of man of his own kind and all species is really beyond words. As Even where laws are in place, you all probably know, it often takes the animal being on death's door or dead before the law kicks in, and often the penalties are so very minor relatively speaking, such as, Oh, you are now not allowed to own an animal for the next 5 years. Pffffffttttt! In this case, the victimized little peeps, as stated, there are no laws. Yes, you could capture the owner leaving the chicks in freezing temps and dying, as that is then animal abuse,... and then the long legal battle. I think somehow these ignorant (add 100 expletives) know this! I have followed many animal abuse cases, and so often, the abuser gets away with it. It's a first offense, the offender claims he didn't know, blah, blah, blah... while obviously not giving any value to these tender little lives, deep down they have to know it's wrong! So, for me, the tongue lashing in line is my preferred method. If I were to stand in line and hear comments as described in this thread, I would make a scene. And know I'm generally a very well mannered human! But when it comes to innocent animals, I have no patience for animal abusers of any kind!

I guess you could say animal abuse is a trigger topic for me. I have an encyclopedia set's worth of decades of rescued peeps of many different species and wildlife, and 1000s I tried to network to safety, many who did not make it,...

My profile pic is Claire, rescued from a terrible breeder, who left this splayed pullet to her own devices in a crowded cage where she was constantly bullied, bald and sunburnt! I did have to bite my tongue to not fillet this individual as my singular focus was getting Claire out of there! (Claire rebounded and lived 2 very happy years with her wonderful purr box, with several bantams in a pampered indoor habitat before she went to live in heaven.)

 

[Gezellige_Poes]

I have to agree, a lot of people just don't think. I myself researched "Raising Chickens" for about six months before I got any. I read everything I could find. My husband thought I was crazy. I am so glad I did. I can't imagine going into this blind.
Last summer I had a hen hatch eggs and it was great watching her raise those chicks right in with the Flock.
This year I chose to buy chicks and introduce them to the Flock myself. It was much easier than I expected.

You, me, and many others: research, research, research,... But the chick situation really comes down to meeting the very most basic needs to sustain life: food, warmth, nurturing comfort!

 

[5Australorpasaures]

The reprehensibly cruel treatment of man of his own kind and all species is really beyond words. As Even where laws are in place, you all probably know, it often takes the animal being on death's door or dead before the law kicks in, and often the penalties are so very minor relatively speaking, such as, Oh, you are now not allowed to own an animal for the next 5 years. Pffffffttttt! In this case, the victimized little peeps, as stated, there are no laws. Yes, you could capture the owner leaving the chicks in freezing temps and dying, as that is then animal abuse,... and then the long legal battle. I think somehow these ignorant (add 100 expletives) know this! I have followed many animal abuse cases, and so often, the abuser gets away with it. It's a first offense, the offender claims he didn't know, blah, blah, blah... while obviously not giving any value to these tender little lives, deep down they have to know it's wrong! So, for me, the tongue lashing in line is my preferred method. If I were to stand in line and hear comments as described in this thread, I would make a scene. And know I'm generally a very well mannered human! But when it comes to innocent animals, I have no patience for animal abusers of any kind!

I guess you could say animal abuse is a trigger topic for me. I have an encyclopedia set's worth of decades of rescued peeps of many different species and wildlife, and 1000s I tried to network to safety, many who did not make it,...

My profile pic is Claire, rescued from a terrible breeder, who left this splayed pullet to her own devices in a crowded cage where she was constantly bullied, bald and sunburnt! I did have to bite my tongue to not fillet this individual as my singular focus was getting Claire out of there! (Claire rebounded and lived 2 very happy years with her wonderful purr box, with several bantams in a pampered indoor habitat before she went to live in heaven.)

Sorry I asked

 

[Gezellige_Poes]

Sorry I asked

Infusion of humor! My Lifeline!

 

[The Moonshiner]

I'd hate the idea of more oversight.
The people that don't do right ain't gonna care. Just more hassle for people that already care.
If these places care... stop selling chicks.
If the employees care... work somewhere that you don't have issue with.
If we care quite supporting these places with our business.

 

[SourRoses]

Precedent should always be kept in mind.

If you needed to have a license to buy chicks, it wouldn't be long before you needed one for any other animal.

Yet, one way to make your money speak is to discourage people from getting chicks at feed stores / hatcheries.
Aside from inhumane culling of male chicks, poor breeding practices, inaccurate ID's, etc, they also sell without concern for education. Everyone should get a pamphlet to take home and compare how their chicks are faring... but since that costs money, corporate interests would never allow it.

At least a good breeder will educate customers as much as they seem willing to tolerate. I'm not exactly a "breeder", but when I sell (adults or chicks), I talk the customers ears off about BYC, HW cloth, and protein. And many breeders cultivate social media presence where they educate as an advertising method.

 

[SourRoses]

If the employees care... work somewhere that you don't have issue with.

For the rest, I was like "Yeah"... but for this, "Ummm".
Monopoly corporate interests control so much of the business world that finding a place to work with decent morals is a joke. Workers are forced to compartmentalize and accept employment to survive.