Ridgeback825
Songster
Maybe parroting talking points is a better descriptive than dreamed up. However, there are far too many factor in play to repeat minimum standards. There are tons of birds that never leave a 2x2 cage. So to shame someone into these standards isn't fair. Most take this position from a place of moral superiority and know nothing about the whole picture. It can be, and is, done on far less and the birds are happy and healthy. 
