Staggered hatch under broody

Nenika

In the Brooder
Aug 19, 2024
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Hello,
I am at a bit of a loss as to what to do. I had a hen go broody about 4 weeks ago, so I purchased some fertile eggs of some other breeds I'd like to add to my flock and put her in a caged area so she wouldn't be disturbed, but still be visible to other flock members.
I might have exaggerated with the nr. of eggs (13), and it looks like the nest box was not ideal... Whatever the reason, when i checked on her and candled the eggs I found some were quite cold. Much colder then the rest. I discarded the ones that were obvious duds, but kept the rest, including the cold eggs, since they seem to be developing normally.
Came day 21 and 2 eggs hatched, next morning (day 22) there were 5 chicks under her and another one hatched by the evening. I candled the rest, discarded 2, kept the 2 live ones under the broody.
The next morning (day 23) she left the nest with the 6 chicks and she made it clear that she's don with the sitting on the eggs business. I took the remaining 2 eggs since they were still alive and put them in an improvised incubator. By the next day (24) one had died, but the other one was still kicking and pipped by the evening, but the chick made no progress in the next 24 h and it looked like it was struggling so we assisted it. This turned out to be a mistake - it was not ready, the umbilical cord was still attached and when it kicked out of the shell it started bleeding. Not a lot but chicks are tiny. We did everything to stop the bleeding and it eventually did, but it looked very bad. I gave it some molasses water to restore some liquid every few hours through the night.
Regardless, I was pretty sure it will die by the morning but the little one is a fighter. By the morning he looked much better. I fed him yolk and molasses water and Today (day 2) he is already walking around, but he is still weak, not drinking by himself, chirping all the time. Pecking a little at the food scattered on the floor, but not much, not nearly enough to catch up with the others.
What I wanted to do initially was to put him back under the broody the next day after he hatched but his siblings were already up and about all day long, he could not keep up. Just sat there chirping sadly for them to come back (it seemed).
So I took him inside and I am waiting for him to get stronger, but I am afraid he already thinks I am the mamma, and he seems so lonely in his box...
The broody does not seem to be hostile towards him (maybe because there is another black chick with her, she was also never hostile when i took the eggs for candling and such) but he is still not fit enough to run around with the others and when he is in his box he stays snuggled under a teddy bear most of the time (we don't have a heat lamp, the box is on a radiator) - I take this to mean he would still need his mamma to warm him up a lot. Or maybe he is just lonely and he seeks comfort. I don't know.

What would be the best course of action here? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Good morning. You have two choices really. Wait a day or two and try sneaking him under the broody at night, do this from behind her not in front, and keep an eye on them when they get up in the morning and throughout the day to verify it’s able to keep up with the others.

Or get a chick from the feed store or somewhere and raise them together. Be prepared to act on this option if the mama doesn’t accept it into the fold.

Good luck!
 
Thank you both. Yeah, that's what I thought. I was kinda hoping for some magical solution I guess 😄
This afternoon I took the little guy to the others and he did follow them and mom around and he finally managed to get her to settle down, so he could rest and the others huddled around him. They stayed like that for like half an hour. It looked promising 🙂
What worries me still is that he is not eating much, just pecks a bit here and there... Might this be because he is still 'full' from the absorbed yolk? Am I worrying for nothing?
I will put him under the broody to bond tonight for sure. Tomorrow we'll see, depends on the weather.
 
Thank you both. Yeah, that's what I thought. I was kinda hoping for some magical solution I guess 😄
This afternoon I took the little guy to the others and he did follow them and mom around and he finally managed to get her to settle down, so he could rest and the others huddled around him. They stayed like that for like half an hour. It looked promising 🙂
What worries me still is that he is not eating much, just pecks a bit here and there... Might this be because he is still 'full' from the absorbed yolk? Am I worrying for nothing?
I will put him under the broody to bond tonight for sure. Tomorrow we'll see, depends on the weather.
If you put it under her tonight leave it with her and see how it goes. It may benefit from being with the others. It’ll have incentive to try to keep up and thrive. Keep an eye on it of course, but give it a chance to bond with the others. They are flock animals and want to be around others.
 
...so, momma hen was great about the new chick, she actually went back to the nest in the morning to get him because he was crying... He did try to keep up but he would not eat at all and just wanted to snuggle under mum. So I brought him back inside and fed him, since he was obviously getting weaker by the hour. In the evening it was clear to me he would not make it, so I put him to rest with the others. I just couldn't leave him alone to die. By the morning he passed.
...nex time I surely will sit on my hands. I wonder what would have happened if I just let him hatch later...
 
Don't worry, you did the best you could. Helping or not is always debatable, I lost several chicks because I helped too late. Sometimes chicks dies because you help too soon, sometimes they die because you don't help or help too late. These things happens all the time to everyone.
 
I agree, these things happen. You and mama both tried. I’ve decided that it doesn’t hatch then it wasn’t meant to be. I’ve seen chicks not hatch under what seem like ideal conditions and chicks hatch despite terrible conditions. It happens, don’t beat yourself up over it.
 
...so, momma hen was great about the new chick, she actually went back to the nest in the morning to get him because he was crying... He did try to keep up but he would not eat at all and just wanted to snuggle under mum. So I brought him back inside and fed him, since he was obviously getting weaker by the hour. In the evening it was clear to me he would not make it, so I put him to rest with the others. I just couldn't leave him alone to die. By the morning he passed.
...nex time I surely will sit on my hands. I wonder what would have happened if I just let him hatch later...
I incubate a ton and have had some hatch at most three days late twice, and several one or two days later, so I try to give them all an extra day or two unless I see a pipped one that's gone over 24 hours.

As far as helping, @Altairsky summed it up well.
 

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