Think 247T34 is a roo but not sure

[Bird nut 2000]

They are my own .. the one in the first post is a line I've had for 3 generations now, started in 2021. I started breeding them from my original line that I've had for 9 years now. The new line has a green egg layer add into It. The older line is a mix of 4 different breeds.

 

[Bird nut 2000]

Petrol and Mr noisy are from the 9 year old line

 

[NatJ]

The 'leghorn' is what everyone says she is....
Hy-Lines as you know are a mix of various breeds, many include leghorns...
I understand what you are saying about the leghorns, I questioned it multiple times, the first to ever say it was on here in BYC, I said no she's a mix. But then a few others who didn't know her, came to pick up week old chicks and commented that she was a beautiful leghorn...

You were right the first time: she is a mix. If the same parents produce chicks with a variety of traits, then none of the chicks belong to any pure breed.

Besides, she has red earlobes and Leghorns have white earlobes. So she's missing an important breed trait.

I don't think the body shape is quite right either, but I've never been very good at recognizing correct body shapes for various breeds, so I could be wrong there.

I think people are seeing white feathers and a big floppy red comb and not looking any further. That might be enough to distinguish White Leghorns from most other pure breeds of chickens, but it is not enough to tell a Leghorn from a mix.

But because there's no way to do DNA testing accurately, we'll never know for sure.

We do know for sure, just by looking at her and at her parents and siblings.

I have heard other people mention ending up with a leghorn, but never believed it until Teenie was hatched.. she's literally the only one that looks like a leghorn, no other does, even out of the chicks I sold. I tried google lens an it bought up leghorns.
What ya think?

I think she looks much like a Leghorn, but is not actually one. For a backyard pet or egg production it doesn't matter, but for breeding it does, because she has some genes different than what a White Leghorn would have.

Teenie is the white, the other 4 are sisters same age. The gold/white and brown are 2 wks older.. all from one mum, one dad

I'm curious: what color eggs do they lay?

id really like to study chicken genetics, would be really interesting.

Have you already found the genetics section of the form?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forums/exhibition-genetics-breeding-to-the-sop.16188/
Of course some of the threads will be more helpful than others, but there is a lot of material over there.

 

[2 chiks n a roo]

You were right the first time: she is a mix. If the same parents produce chicks with a variety of traits, then none of the chicks belong to any pure breed.

Besides, she has red earlobes and Leghorns have white earlobes. So she's missing an important breed trait.

I don't think the body shape is quite right either, but I've never been very good at recognizing correct body shapes for various breeds, so I could be wrong there.

I think people are seeing white feathers and a big floppy red comb and not looking any further. That might be enough to distinguish White Leghorns from most other pure breeds of chickens, but it is not enough to tell a Leghorn from a mix.


We do know for sure, just by looking at her and at her parents and siblings.


I think she looks much like a Leghorn, but is not actually one. For a backyard pet or egg production it doesn't matter, but for breeding it does, because she has some genes different than what a White Leghorn would have.


I'm curious: what color eggs do they lay?


Have you already found the genetics section of the form?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forums/exhibition-genetics-breeding-to-the-sop.16188/
Of course some of the threads will be more helpful than others, but there is a lot of material over there.

Thank you.. I value your input.

The colour of leghorn ears I didn't know, the rest of her looks like them.. I love that she's different, even her personality. She's cheeky, bold, super cuddly, extremely ticklish haha when she does the squat an brings her wings out a bit, I tickle her armpits. She squeals an almost laughs, runs away, fluffs up then comes back an does it again.
I had a quick search of the traits and the body is definitely wrong, and she's too calm going by the description of being nervous flighty birds Teenie is the most chilled..

I've found someone with pure leghorn eggs for sale which I'll be buying. Teenies eggs range from white to light brown, she's way bigger than the rest and over a kilo heavier. Their dads 6.5kg an she's not much lighter.
She's special regardless of the mixed breeding. I want to get some chicks from her and Goldie (white/gold) so I can create a breed over the next 5 years.
Most of the rest lay standard brown eggs, some are gradient and others sold color. Some shells are really thick, not usually any thin ones although lately the weather has played a part and I'm getting some thin shells.
One smashed again today, blardy rats and mice are getting in.
I'm still a few months away from being able to build a coop. Nearly there.
Thank you for the link, I'll save that and have a read tonight.

 

[2 chiks n a roo]

They are my own .. the one in the first post is a line I've had for 3 generations now, started in 2021. I started breeding them from my original line that I've had for 9 years now. The new line has a green egg layer add into It. The older line is a mix of 4 different breeds.

Does your line have a brand name? Id love to see images of your flock

(Apologies for the conversation continuing away from your thread, wasn't intended)

 

[NatJ]

Teenies eggs range from white to light brown, she's way bigger than the rest and over a kilo heavier.

Leghorns are small hens, so that is another way in which she is not like a Leghorn. Leghorns lay white eggs, and are not supposed to have any light brown ones.

She's special regardless of the mixed breeding.

I agree!

With her size and other traits, I think she is more like a White Rock than a White Leghorn. Rocks are dual-purpose chickens, rather large and meaty, with red earlobes, and they lay brown eggs. They come in several different color varieties, with White and Barred being the most common two in the USA (where the breed orginated.) I know she is not a White Rock either, but she does have some traits in common with them.

I want to get some chicks from her and Goldie (white/gold) so I can create a breed over the next 5 years.

Sounds like a fun project

 

[Bird nut 2000]

Does your line have a brand name? Id love to see images of your flock

(Apologies for the conversation continuing away from your thread, wasn't intended)

Your good .. yes both lines have names. The newist is the peepingherb and the oldest is the peeplet line

Skate of the peeplet line

Mustashe of the peeplet line
They were about 6 months in these photos.

 

[2 chiks n a roo]

Leghorns are small hens, so that is another way in which she is not like a Leghorn. Leghorns lay white eggs, and are not supposed to have any light brown ones.


I agree!

With her size and other traits, I think she is more like a White Rock than a White Leghorn. Rocks are dual-purpose chickens, rather large and meaty, with red earlobes, and they lay brown eggs. They come in several different color varieties, with White and Barred being the most common two in the USA (where the breed orginated.) I know she is not a White Rock either, but she does have some traits in common with them.


Sounds like a fun project

Coop first.. find land, then I can start she's still only 10 mths old so I'm not mating her until she's over a year.
I just found a interesting link.. relating to chickens with white earlobes..
Check this out.. https://layinghens.hendrix-genetics...-does-earlobe-tell-you-about-egg-shell-color/
My chicks dad is a RIR/shaver x... Mum Hy-line. The Hy-line is depending on the variety, mumma has all the traits of first generation hy-lines, which is predominantly RIR, leghorn, shaver, light Sussex.. so I'm 'guessing' that's where the colours, traits are coming from.. each egg seems to have a link to each gene whether combined or separate. This link below shows RIR's can have white or red ears... https://www.researchgate.net/figure...e earlobes are characteristic of,et al., 2023).

 

[2 chiks n a roo]

Your good .. yes both lines have names. The newist is the peepingherb and the oldest is the peeplet line
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Skate of the peeplet line
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Mustashe of the peeplet line
They were about 6 months in these photos.

Love the colours.. mustashe is stunning!!

 

[2 chiks n a roo]

Leghorns are small hens, so that is another way in which she is not like a Leghorn. Leghorns lay white eggs, and are not supposed to have any light brown ones.


I agree!

With her size and other traits, I think she is more like a White Rock than a White Leghorn. Rocks are dual-purpose chickens, rather large and meaty, with red earlobes, and they lay brown eggs. They come in several different color varieties, with White and Barred being the most common two in the USA (where the breed orginated.) I know she is not a White Rock either, but she does have some traits in common with them.


Sounds like a fun project

I think you're right about the white rock... She's got the temperament, size, shape of the WR, but the look of the leghorn.. wonder what her babies will look like..
She's going to be crossed with her dad first, then cross a boy back to mum and follow the line breeding rule from there..
But you've inspired me to find some white rock eggs, as well as the leghorn eggs..

I even have a breed name in mind combining the two.. g rated thread, can't write it without it sounding rood...