Topic of the Week - Chicken Behaviour and Flock Dynamics Part 2 - Bullying Behaviour

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I have geese and ducks so this applies to geese.

Bullying can arise for a number of reasons. Much of the time it’s the flock sorting dominance. With geese there isn’t necessarily a “top dog” in a flock, with a large flock there’s more of various factions vying for first access to food and for who’s pairing up for who. For example currently with my ganders: Roxby is dominant to Parsnip and Leo “who are in a bonded group together,” Helios is dominant to Roxby, Leo and Parsnip are dominant to Helios, Strawberry and Darby “who are a bonded group” are dominant to Roxby and Helios but not to Leo and Parsnip.
However this is all in constant flux.
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Dominance also varies between males and females with each having sometimes a slightly different “pecking order.” Sometimes the females dynamics are influenced by the ganders but not always. Within a bonded group often there will be more dominant females than others, and dominant females will often take over another female’s nest and babies with the backing of her gander. This is normal.
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However flock dynamics can easily become toxic and even dangerous if the flock doesn’t have enough room, if there are too many birds in a small area stress levels increase and frequent fights that break out in confined areas sometimes will not stop.
Ways to mitigate this, provide plenty of access to pasture during the day. Flocks with space are healthier and happier.
Supply enrichment activities. Things like baby pools, buckets, dog chew toys, mud puddles, treats, pumpkins, hay bales, things in general they can tinker with that can occupy their time. Anything that rots should be removed before it begins to mold. Tinker and chew toys should be non metallic and toxin free and not be a choking hazard.

It’s best to keep individual cliques separate when nesting and at night, some can get along in one big shed at night, others can’t. To prevent nasty fights that don’t stop it’s a good idea to keep each little group in their own area at night and when nesting just in case. For example I have four cliques within my flock, they each have their own separate dog kennel for bedtime and it greatly reduces their stress and the chance of bs starting up in the night or early hours.
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Sometimes bullying can be because of a new flock member, geese form strong bonds and have long memories, it will naturally take time for a new addition to find their place in the flock and friends.
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Hormones also play a role, breeding season makes ganders pea brained and quick to anger, they can’t help it and there’s no way to prevent it.
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Another cause of bullying is sometimes not enough geese. Sometimes a gander will have all the girls to himself leaving another gander without a partner. Sometimes the only way to deal with this is to separate the most friendly female to him from the other group and place her in a separate enclosure with the lonely gander indefinitely until they bond, but sometimes this doesn’t work and the only solution is rehoming him to a new flock or getting him a new goose or gander to pair with.

Also sometimes a gander will only bond with one female or certain females leaving another female as a third wheel that’s constantly excluded and pushed out of their clique. The only solution is rehoming or getting her another gander or goose to bond with.
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Ganders can and do form wonderful strong bonds with each other but their relationship can vary due to individual personalities. Most bonded gander pairs will still squabble with each other in breeding season but they’ll quickly make up like nothing happened when the fight is over.
Something to be on the watch for however is that the bonded ganders will often feed off each others energy, especially during breeding season when their hormones are amped up, this can become dangerous if there are other ganders the pair considers as a rival because then you can get multiple ganders attacking one. If this keeps occurring separating the bonded pair from their target(s) is the only solution until hormones settle down. If it’s still happening then indefinite separation or rehoming is the only solution.
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Bullying between ganders and even ganders bullying females can also be because of the females. Many fights occur because a goose egged her mate on to attack another gander or drive a female out of their clique. You’ll need to be on the watch for this behavior if it becomes excessive and sometimes separate a problem female and place her in another group. “I’m talking about you Dandelion!”
In most cases I’ve seen in a larger flock with options it’s the female who picks her gander, occasionally a female will toy with more than one gander, like Dandelion who day after day would gravitate between Roxby and Helios and instigate fights between them when they’d previously got along okay. This high school behavior kept escalating so I made the choice for her and permanently placed her with Helios who’s calmer and less likely to give in to her war mongering and who was far less stressed to defend her like Roxby was, and I prevented her from interacting with Roxby for months. Things have been much more peaceful.
 
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I had a bully. Mrs.Pepper would not stop attaching Sweet Pea. She seemed to live for it and when she would start the others would join in. I took Mrs.Pepper back to my mom 2 days ago. For the first time since Sweet Pea got here there is peace in the flock.
I tried keeping them separate were they could see each other and it seemed to help at first. But every time I tried to let them interact she would start in again. I named her Sweet Pea because she never defended herself. She took the abuse and would just run and hide. I noticed that the others were not mean to her if I kept Mrs Pepper in the coop. So I knew Pepper had to go.
My mom hatched her and I had already taken Mr Salt back so I decided to reunite them. My mom is happy to have her back and she seems happy to be there with Mr.Salt.
Now my pullets like to buck up to each other but Pretty Boy always jumps in and shuts it down. I don't understand why he joins their tifs but he would let Mrs. Pepper attack whoever she wanted.
 
My mature hen, Lucy, makes all five flockmates sleep in a single nesting box. Oddly enough, it's the nest she lays in. She'll block the 13-week-olds from the ramp and the roost for an hour or two before moving to her favorite spot on the other side of the coop. When Lucy goes to the roost, the babies will move to the floor or the roost. Usually, the floor.

I worry the youngsters will gang up on her when they mature. Lucy may take a time out for a few days to give the littles a break.
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Yes, four of the five 13-week-old chicks are in that one box.
 
My mature hen, Lucy, makes all five flockmates sleep in a single nesting box. Oddly enough, it's the nest she lays in. She'll block the 13-week-olds from the ramp and the roost for an hour or two before moving to her favorite spot on the other side of the coop. When Lucy goes to the roost, the babies will move to the floor or the roost. Usually, the floor.

I worry the youngsters will gang up on her when they mature. Lucy may take a time out for a few days to give the littles a break.View attachment 3964021
Yes, four of the five 13-week-old chicks are in that one box.
I don’t like it when juveniles of this age sleep in a nest-box for hygiene reasons. So I pick the up an put them on a roost where I like them to sleep.

Many times they figure it out after a week or so. Only be careful if they are harassed. Don’t try this for an extended time. You don’t want to traumatise the juveniles.
 
I don’t like it when juveniles of this age sleep in a nest-box for hygiene reasons. So I pick the up an put them on a roost where I like them to sleep.

Many times they figure it out after a week or so. Only be careful if they are harassed. Don’t try this for an extended time. You don’t want to traumatise the juveniles.
I don't like them sleeping there for the same reason. Also, I hate that Lucy is goalkeeping the roost and making them sleep there. All five youngsters have known they are supposed to be on the roost since they moved into the secondary coop on August 18th.

I have a single, divided run with two coops. They have access to both parts of the run unless I have to separate someone for an injury or to integrate new birds. Since I integrated them with Lucy (by opening the run and closing the secondary coop), she's been running them off the roost. One or two figured out they could hide from her at bedtime in a nesting box. Now, she makes all five get into the same box every night.

Lucy is the remaining hen from a pair of 9-month-olds I adopted last fall. They were my first flock. I've never had juveniles or integrated a flock before. I keep telling myself to stay out of it, and it's none of my business so they can work out their hierarchy. I'm unsure when I should step in. I'm afraid that as the pullets mature, one of them will challenge her, and they will all pile on.

There are also a concerning number of feathers in the coop and run. I don't know if it's normal at 13 weeks or not, but in the year I've had Lucy, she's never shed feathers like these babies have.

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I just researched and found that the feathers are normal for a juvenile molt at this age. What a relief!
 
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Lucy is the remaining hen from a pair of 9-month-olds I adopted last fall. They were my first flock. I've never had juveniles or integrated a flock before. I keep telling myself to stay out of it, and it's none of my business so they can work out their hierarchy. I'm unsure when I should step in. I'm afraid that as the pullets mature, one of them will challenge her, and they will all pile on.
I have 3 hens harassing my juveniles at roost time. Same thing happened every time I have youngsters who grow up and are ready to roost.

I’m sharing my story hoping it can help you to make your own decisions. And try one or two things to get the juveniles roost in a spot were you think is okay. It doesn’t have to be in the same coop as where your Lucy is roosting.
Imho its better not force things too much but do make them aware that they are not supposed to sleep in a nestbox, show them what possibilities they have and give them the opportunity to choose.

Last year the 9 juveniles all started to roost in the run on a tree branch that I hung in the run (not very safe).
This spring my sole male juvenile was expelled from the nestbox by me and from the coop extension where the older hens roost too. He roosted alone in the berry bush for a couple of weeks until I found a new home for him.
So this summer when I had 3 chicks I tried to be ahead of the nestbox and ‘expelled from the coop extension’ problem. I bought a new coop (a childrens playhouse) and added it to the run. Hoping the juveniles would choose to roost in there when they were old enough to do so.

But the mamas and juveniles made their own plan and started to roost in the small coop next to the nestboxes.
This was okay being small, but they got too big to fit in there with the 5 of them. Most evenings I found one or two family members in a nestbox and I moved them to these to the playhouse.

Yesterday the juveniles all went to roost in the playhouse by themselves for the first time.

If you like to read the whole story click on the link in my signature.
 
I have 3 hens harassing my juveniles at roost time. Same thing happened every time I have youngsters who grow up and are ready to roost.

I’m sharing my story hoping it can help you to make your own decisions. And try one or two things to get the juveniles roost in a spot were you think is okay. It doesn’t have to be in the same coop as where your Lucy is roosting.
Imho its better not force things too much but do make them aware that they are not supposed to sleep in a nestbox, show them what possibilities they have and give them the opportunity to choose.

Last year the 9 juveniles all started to roost in the run on a tree branch that I hung in the run (not very safe).
This spring my sole male juvenile was expelled from the nestbox by me and from the coop extension where the older hens roost too. He roosted alone in the berry bush for a couple of weeks until I found a new home for him.
So this summer when I had 3 chicks I tried to be ahead of the nestbox and ‘expelled from the coop extension’ problem. I bought a new coop (a childrens playhouse) and added it to the run. Hoping the juveniles would choose to roost in there when they were old enough to do so.

But the mamas and juveniles made their own plan and started to roost in the small coop next to the nestboxes.
This was okay being small, but they got too big to fit in there with the 5 of them. Most evenings I found one or two family members in a nestbox and I moved them to these to the playhouse.

Yesterday the juveniles all went to roost in the playhouse by themselves for the first time.

If you like to read the whole story click on the link in my

I have 3 hens harassing my juveniles at roost time. Same thing happened every time I have youngsters who grow up and are ready to roost.

I’m sharing my story hoping it can help you to make your own decisions. And try one or two things to get the juveniles roost in a spot were you think is okay. It doesn’t have to be in the same coop as where your Lucy is roosting.
Imho its better not force things too much but do make them aware that they are not supposed to sleep in a nestbox, show them what possibilities they have and give them the opportunity to choose.

Last year the 9 juveniles all started to roost in the run on a tree branch that I hung in the run (not very safe).
This spring my sole male juvenile was expelled from the nestbox by me and from the coop extension where the older hens roost too. He roosted alone in the berry bush for a couple of weeks until I found a new home for him.
So this summer when I had 3 chicks I tried to be ahead of the nestbox and ‘expelled from the coop extension’ problem. I bought a new coop (a childrens playhouse) and added it to the run. Hoping the juveniles would choose to roost in there when they were old enough to do so.

But the mamas and juveniles made their own plan and started to roost in the small coop next to the nestboxes.
This was okay being small, but they got too big to fit in there with the 5 of them. Most evenings I found one or two family members in a nestbox and I moved them to these to the playhouse.

Yesterday the juveniles all went to roost in the playhouse by themselves for the first time.

If you like to read the whole story click on the link in my signature.
Getting the youngsters to roost isn't the problem. They
WANT to noost.
 

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