watery white poo picture..3 year old polish Hen lethargic,droopy wings

Started her on clavamox gave her 1/4 tablet of 375mg. Fed her some baby food (couldn't find the baby bird food) from a syringe (not ready to do the tube to the crop thing yet) she list two ones since last weighed. We also gave her water by syringe. She did eat a little moistened oatmeal on her own. Hoping she will feel a little better tomorrow, cross my fingers.
 
Did you notice an moldy feed recently? I ask because your chicken's droppings look exactly like my EE's. Cocci was confirmed by a vet, but the course of Corid did not clear up the watery/green droppings or her lethargy. She improved slightly, but not enough for her to eat or drink enough on her own. About 2 weeks prior to her visible symptoms, I removed a feeder with moldy feed courtesy of the sudden warm up and wet weather we got around Christmas. I suspect clostridium perfringens, which I am now treating with antibiotics. I think the clostridium perfringens weakened her enough to contract Cocci (no other flock members showed symptoms, but were all treated with Corid and are all well). One day of treatment and I see a drastic improvement. She is eating layer and drinking on her own. I'm no vet and I can't spend another $100.00 on a vet visit, but it's something to consider. Below is a link to the poop chart that led me to my conclusion, plus the extensive thread by BYC member Nambroth.

http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=17568.0

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/613918/undigested-food-in-droppings-update-on-page-3
I'm not positive, but I also think it could be Clostridium perfringens. You can treat it with penicillin, but there are also other drugs that will treat it. Tylan is one of them. You can research the disease and possible treatments. I have a young hen that has had lack of appetite, limping, loss of balance, droopy wing on one side, refusal to drink etc for 2+ months. Treated her for worms and coccidia, but now she is passing undigested food and has water diarrhea (sometimes) which is the key sign of C. Perfringens. Just started treatment with Tylan + Metronidazole since that is what I had at home on a weekend and my vet isn't much help at all. The hen is not looking worse, but I don't hold out a lot of hope since she's been sick for so long and probably has permanent internal damage. We'll give her a fighting chance though since she' s a sweet bird and deserves it.

Sunken road - what antibiotics are you using on your hen?

You may also need to start getting food and water into Polish if she won't eat on her own. Dehydration is as bad for a bird as any other illness.
 
I'm not positive, but I also think it could be Clostridium perfringens. You can treat it with penicillin, but there are also other drugs that will treat it. Tylan is one of them. You can research the disease and possible treatments. I have a young hen that has had lack of appetite, limping, loss of balance, droopy wing on one side, refusal to drink etc for 2+ months. Treated her for worms and coccidia, but now she is passing undigested food and has water diarrhea (sometimes) which is the key sign of C. Perfringens. Just started treatment with Tylan + Metronidazole since that is what I had at home on a weekend and my vet isn't much help at all. The hen is not looking worse, but I don't hold out a lot of hope since she's been sick for so long and probably has permanent internal damage. We'll give her a fighting chance though since she' s a sweet bird and deserves it.

Sunken road - what antibiotics are you using on your hen?

You may also need to start getting food and water into Polish if she won't eat on her own. Dehydration is as bad for a bird as any other illness.
Oxytetracycline. Unfortunately I ended up having to put the poor thing down Sunday. She perked up about three days into the antibiotic course, then suddenly got worse to the point of not being able to move around on her own. I performed my own necropsy, everything internally looked good. She had very little food in her, which I expected. Unfortunately my state won't do free necropsies, so I couldn't get any samples tested. The good news, however, is none of her flockmates have any of her symptoms, so I don't believe it was anything contagious.
 
Quote: Sorry to hear you had to put her down. :( I read that Clostridium is sometimes resistant to Oxytetracycline. I was treating my hen with Oxy, and she actually started getting worse when I stopped so maybe it was helping. She has good days, and then other days where she won't eat a thing. I'm sure one of these days I'll come home to find her passed away, or perhaps I'll have to do the deed myself, but I 'm still hoping she'll get better.

Our state is doing free necropsies since we've had a lot of Avian influenza going around. I'm glad the rest of your flock is doing great!
 
Sorry to hear you had to put her down.  :(  I read that Clostridium is sometimes resistant to Oxytetracycline.  I was treating my hen with Oxy, and she actually started getting worse when I stopped so maybe it was helping.  She has good days, and then other days where she won't eat a thing.  I'm sure one of these days I'll come home to find her passed away, or perhaps I'll have to do the deed myself, but I 'm still hoping she'll get better.  

Our state is doing free necropsies since we've had a lot of Avian influenza going around.  I'm glad the rest of your flock is doing great! 


Thanks. It what I had on hand. I started with Albon, but only had 2 doses. I never like putting an animal down, but she was definitely suffering.
 
hey Kathy I figured I would write about hawk...and tell the story on your thread...so I contacted Kathy and she helped me thru the first time tube feeding process....my birds eyes were close she was weak she wasn't eating or drinking .....and I had no tube feeding tools so we came up with the solution of a nutrient syringe which I had in the store...some 1/4 " aquarium line taking the lighter to the end that would be going down the bird and softening the end so it wouldn't puncture anything...rounding the edges of the line...and then doing a dry run on the outside to the crop and marking the tube so I knew how far to go down...first I brought the bird in from the cold weather and let it warm up then I made a quick solution of a scoop of sugar and little bit of molasses in a two cup glass of warm water...brought up 25 ml of the solution and tube fed the bird....pics below...then four hours later did the same process but put in 1/2ml of corid in with the solution...hope this is pretty accurate on what you coached me throu....and thanks she is doing great















her on the left side with the flock a couple of days later


hope this helps out for people that have to tube feed...it is a little nerve racking when you first do it....but its great when it turns out to work....also the tube should have no resistance when going down the throat if there is resistance then back up and try again...once the tube is down the bird is normally pretty calm

-Kathy
 
Thanks for chiming in Kathy. You are so helpful on this forum - you should definitely get a paycheck here!
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My hen's droppings are looking a bit better already and her appetite has improved. Her problem is that she has been limping for 8 weeks. During this time she will not drink water or eat chicken food. One day about a week ago she ate a whole handful of flock raiser, but apparently that was a one-day thing. I've been preparing other food for her to eat, plus she gets grass and and a bit of scratch grains. Currently she love bananas and will also eat peas, corn, green beans, worms, sometimes cucumbers, cheese or bread. That is about it. Not a balanced diet. I've been tubing her with water + corid twice a day so she stays hydrated. She hates being tubed and fights me for 15 minutes before giving up. I'd probably tube her more if it wasn't such a stressful process for both of us. I've also ground up chick starter (with the water) and tubed her with that for some extra nutrition. She seems to be maintaining her weight on what she will eat.

Ironically she doesn't mind the Tylan injections at all. I'm able to hide the metronidazole in a piece of banana and she eats it. I'll start her back on vitamins as soon as she's done with the corid. I'm going to give the Tylan + metronidazole a few more days to work and see how she's doing. I read that clostridium can cause walking problems, immobility, depression, anorexia in addition to undigested food in droppings. She's been sick for a long time though - we might have waited too long to treat her. It is worth a shot though.
 

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