What breeds make a Mosaic?

[AusHen]

I wonder if Hmong were used in the breeding? they have blue lobes and similar colorations

 

[Sheryll_woods]

I don’t think no one know exactly except the creator of the breed.
I wonder if there is Silkie involved?

Ayem cemani is used but I think the hen is 2nd or 3rd generation....I think that's what I read earlier

 

[Sheryll_woods]

I wonder if Hmong were used in the breeding? they have blue lobes and similar colorations

Likely comes from the Cemani line

 

[Sheryll_woods]

I have some guesses, but they are nothing more than that- guesses. I think it’s possible that they have dorking, salmon faverolles, and/or hedemora in them. Of course, it’s confirmed that they do have some ayam cemani genetics.

I believe it starts with the black ayhem cemani an a leghorn. The females ate them bred back to the cemani.... that's what I think

 

[Skyeknight]

I believe it starts with the black ayhem cemani an a leghorn. The females ate them bred back to the cemani.... that's what I think

This would result in F2 zombies and doesn't really explain where their pattern comes from. To me the three major differences between zombies and mosaics are that mosaics tend to have a pattern, blue earlobes and red combs and wattles while still having black skin.

I think it’s possible that they have dorking, salmon faverolles, and/or hedemora in them.

Why do you think this? They don't seem to have 5 toes, feathered feet or beards.

I wonder if Hmong were used in the breeding? they have blue lobes and similar colorations

I am no expert, but I do not see blue earlobes on Hmong when googling them. Mosaics do resemble them almost identically, so to me it looks like this might be the base for mosaics. It's generally easier to build from something that already resembles what you want instead of starting from scratch.

Can anyone give a source to where it is mentioned that Ayam Cemani is used in their genetic make up?

If Ayam Cemani is used as the base then the duckwing pattern comes from another breed. The white feathers should be dominant white. Some seem to have bit of red leakage, but it wouldn't suprise me if they generally carry silver.

Does anyone know if they breed true? I don't really know anything about mosaics as indeed the genetic make up seems to be a secret and therefore they don't exist in my country.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

This would result in F2 zombies and doesn't really explain where their pattern comes from. To me the three major differences between zombies and mosaics are that mosaics tend to have a pattern, blue earlobes and red combs and wattles while still having black skin.


Why do you think this? They don't seem to have 5 toes, feathered feet or beards.


I am no expert, but I do not see blue earlobes on Hmong when googling them. Mosaics do resemble them almost identically, so to me it looks like this might be the base for mosaics. It's generally easier to build from something that already resembles what you want instead of starting from scratch.

Can anyone give a source to where it is mentioned that Ayam Cemani is used in their genetic make up?

If Ayam Cemani is used as the base then the duckwing pattern comes from another breed. The white feathers should be dominant white. Some seem to have bit of red leakage, but it wouldn't suprise me if they generally carry silver.

Does anyone know if they breed true? I don't really know anything about mosaics as indeed the genetic make up seems to be a secret and therefore they don't exist in my country.

I was thinking faverolles because of their combination of lots of autosomal red and silver, which is relatively rare in purebred chickens. I haven’t seen any mosaics with dominant white, so I don’t think white leghorns are involved. I definitely think hmongs could’ve been part of their makeup.

I don’t remember where it says ayam cemani are involved.

The blue earlobes are present in silkies, so I believe they’re just a combination of melanistic skin and white earlobes.