What causes droppings like these?

[Goosebaby]

Update us if there's any changes, if there's no change, I'll tag in some people who may help.

Thank you!

 

[Wyorp Rock]

What dose of Corid are you using?

I'm not familiar with Geese, so...
He's 11 months old and you've had him this whole time? @casportpony

 

[casportpony]

Is a vet an option? I ask because Coccidiosis in geese is rare. Poop like that makes me think it's a bacterial infection.

 

[Goosebaby]

What dose of Corid are you using?

I'm not familiar with Geese, so...
He's 11 months old and you've had him this whole time? @casportpony

I’m using the powder, I’m adding a 1tbs each to a 5 gallon bucket

Yes I’ve had him his whole life, I raised his parents and grandparents.

Is a vet an option? I ask because Coccidiosis in geese is rare. Poop like that makes me think it's a bacterial infection.

A vet is no longer an option, I exhausted what I could treating his recurring bouts of lameness, which I’ve had a number of theories to the cause of, but so far nothing’s really worked. To sum it up he has been going through nearly exact cycles of being lame for 21 days followed by 11 days of recovery. I wanted to know what others thought of his droppings because that’s been a major concern, which no one before has been able to answer in the past and his droppings are once again starting to look like these again.
My vet doesn’t really know what’s going on with him, his CBC was normal, and he was negative for heavy metal poisoning. At the time she didn’t want to do radiology, fecal, or any other tests because she thought it was lead poisoning, so I spent more than I should treating him for that and then treating him with cipro while he was lame the first time around until he fully recovered.
By the time his next lameness spell reared it’s ugly head I was no longer in a position to take him back in.

 

[Goosebaby]

This was my first post here trying to figure it out. https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/albendazole-dosage-goose-with-progressive-limp.1453272/

This is the one I’ve been updating. https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/kinky-back-treatable-what’s-your-expierience.1462064/page-2

 

[Sierra G]

Is there any possibility he's picked up any hardware? If a roof was reshingled or something like that nails could have appeared in your yard, even if it wasn't your roof. Screws from siding, storm windows, or some other installation are also a possibility. Workmen drop these things and never even try to clean them up in most cases.

Steel and iron won't show up on a heavy metals test. If you know someone with a metal detector you might give his tummy a sweep. But do not use a magnet because if he does have hardware you don't want to move it around, especially not with a strong magnet.

Edit: I thought about it some more and am leaning towards zinc poisoning. Probably a small enough amount that it didn't show up on the heavy metal test. Does Roxby go to the park (or anywhere else) monthly? If so, maybe whatever water he swims in has lots of pennies in it. I'm asking because I still can't figure out the 32 day cycle.

Since hardware was was your first diagnosis, did you ever treat for it or did you just assume it had to be something else because of the results of the heavy metal test? I'd suggest a few doses of activated charcoal except for the fact that it would probably interfere with his other treatments.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I’m using the powder, I’m adding a 1tbs each to a 5 gallon bucket

OK Well, hopefully Kathy will chime back in...again, I don't know Geese, so!
Dosing for Powdered Corid is 1 1/2 teaspoons per gallon of water so that would translate to 2 1/2 TABLESPOONS to a 5 gallon bucket of water. IF you continue with the Corid, then I would finish the course with that dosing.

Just glancing at your other threads. You de-wormed (Ivermectin and Albendazole?) and you are "currently" giving antibiotics (all 3? Doxy, Cipro and Cephalexin?)
Just trying to gather all info in one place for the others so hopefully they can help figure it out. Again, I don't know about geese, to me, that seems like a lot of medication given in the last couple of months. Did the vet recommend these or ? I wonder if once you finish the course of your treatment - give normal feed, plain fresh water, vitamins and probiotics may help with straightening out the poop. Kathy may need to correct me on this since this is a Goose(?)

Doxycycline 25 mg, Cephelexin 125 mg, cipro 125 mg, every 12 hours.

 

[Goosebaby]

Is there any possibility he's picked up any hardware? If a roof was reshingled or something like that nails could have appeared in your yard, even if it wasn't your roof. Screws from siding, storm windows, or some other installation are also a possibility. Workmen drop these things and never even try to clean them up in most cases.

Steel and iron won't show up on a heavy metals test. If you know someone with a metal detector you might give his tummy a sweep. But do not use a magnet because if he does have hardware you don't want to move it around, especially not with a strong magnet.

Edit: I thought about it some more and am leaning towards zinc poisoning. Probably a small enough amount that it didn't show up on the heavy metal test. Does Roxby go to the park (or anywhere else) monthly? If so, maybe whatever water he swims in has lots of pennies in it. I'm asking because I still can't figure out the 32 day cycle.

Since hardware was was your first diagnosis, did you ever treat for it or did you just assume it had to be something else because of the results of the heavy metal test? I'd suggest a few doses of activated charcoal except for the fact that it would probably interfere with his other treatments.

I can’t say for certain that he hasn’t picked something up in the past, but since his ordeal has begun he’s been pretty much under constant supervision, the only times he hasn’t been watched is when he’s in his pen with his mom and sister at times during the day “10’ x 5’ dog kennel with pine shaving floor,” he’s been sleeping at night inside the house because of his delicate condition. When he’s down he’s pretty much in full time. He’s in a closed off corner of the room with a baby pool with bedding, food water, and puppy pads.
Since this has begun he hasn’t gotten into anything.

He doesn’t go to the park, the only time besides his vet visit that he’s ever left home was last September when we were evacuated during the bear fire, we spent the week at a relative’s house.

He was initially on a treatment for lead poisoning, he was taking activated charcoal, cilantro, and CaEDTA 1cc every 12 hours injected into the right breast muscle. I gave him 6 of these injections total.

 

[Sierra G]

I'm not suggesting this is related, but there's some debate about how safe pine shavings are for all poultry. I'm not sure why he'd be the only one effected though. Maybe his sex or maybe he's eating it? Just to show it relates to your 32 day cycle how often do you change the bedding and how often do you open a new bag?

For further reading
https://www.thefeatherbrain.com/blog/toxic-chicken-coop-pine-shavings

 

[Goosebaby]

OK Well, hopefully Kathy will chime back in...again, I don't know Geese, so!
Dosing for Powdered Corid is 1 1/2 teaspoons per gallon of water so that would translate to 2 1/2 TABLESPOONS to a 5 gallon bucket of water. IF you continue with the Corid, then I would finish the course with that dosing.

Just glancing at your other threads. You de-wormed (Ivermectin and Albendazole?) and you are "currently" giving antibiotics (all 3? Doxy, Cipro and Cephalexin?)
Just trying to gather all info in one place for the others so hopefully they can help figure it out. Again, I don't know about geese, to me, that seems like a lot of medication given in the last couple of months. Did the vet recommend these or ? I wonder if once you finish the course of your treatment - give normal feed, plain fresh water, vitamins and probiotics may help with straightening out the poop. Kathy may need to correct me on this since this is a Goose(?)

Yeah so I see I got the dosage for corid wrong, I will adjust that!

Initially he was only on Cipro (125mg/ 12 hrs) a week in he was also prescribed amoxicillin (125 mg/12) after he developed a slight but persistent runny nose. The runny nose may have been caused by tube feeding irritating his throat but it was hard to say.

The Doxy and Ceph weren’t prescribed by the vet, at that point I was unable to take him to the vet any further, his vet is aware of what I’m treating him with but it isn’t under her direction, she can’t advise me any further without running more tests understandably.
The first reason I put him on Doxy and Ceph was his mother had started acting off “hunched, ruffled feathers, favoring her right leg, and she had pica, she had been given corid and wormed like the others but it didn’t seem to help her so I had put her on those two antibiotics and they seemed to do the trick.
The second is that this property has a high tick population, I myself have been treated twice for an unidentified tick born illness that may have been Lyme disease “doctor decided to test me for it 3 weeks into taking Doxy and I tested negative” and two of my dogs have tested positive for it with one dog succumbing to a neurological spinal disease.
The cipro I added on purely out of paranoia, though with the amount of antibiotics he’s already on it’s been eating at me from that front, he’s no longer on Doxy now, from here he’s going to finish his round of Ceph and cipro unless there are further developments that may make me take him off them sooner.