What is on my quails leg?

[zoeechewz]

I just picked up my first lil flock yesterday and I noticed two girls cannot bear weight on one of their feet. Very warm to the touch but no scab or puncture to drain from. The first girl got her “good” foot cleaned and dressed as those scabs were obvious.
Both female between 8-10wks old
Very possible they’re inbred as another has a misaligned beak. Pls help me help them

 

[Patiocoturnix]

I just picked up my first lil flock yesterday and I noticed two girls cannot bear weight on one of their feet. Very warm to the touch but no scab or puncture to drain from. The first girl got her “good” foot cleaned and dressed as those scabs were obvious.
Both female between 8-10wks old
Very possible they’re inbred as another has a misaligned beak. Pls help me help them

Looks like an infection of the joint.
@Kiki @Nabiki

 

[Kiki]

I just picked up my first lil flock yesterday and I noticed two girls cannot bear weight on one of their feet. Very warm to the touch but no scab or puncture to drain from. The first girl got her “good” foot cleaned and dressed as those scabs were obvious.
Both female between 8-10wks old
Very possible they’re inbred as another has a misaligned beak. Pls help me help them

Do you know how they were being housed?
All quail are pretty much in bred.

Do you know what the person was feeding them?
I think if I were you I would return the quail first thing tomorrow morning.

 

[Kiki]

I just picked up my first lil flock yesterday and I noticed two girls cannot bear weight on one of their feet. Very warm to the touch but no scab or puncture to drain from. The first girl got her “good” foot cleaned and dressed as those scabs were obvious.
Both female between 8-10wks old
Very possible they’re inbred as another has a misaligned beak. Pls help me help them

My first guess is these poor birds were sitting in poop that was burning them for way too long.

 

[Nabiki]

That looks like an infection. The leg that is less swollen looks like bumblefoot as well. This happens when they get a small cut and stand in their poop, so it gets infected. You can treat the bumblefoot with an epsom salt bath, but if the infection has moved to the joint, I'm not sure what you can do without a vet.

@007Sean?

 

[zoeechewz]

Do you know how they were being housed?
All quail are pretty much in bred.

Do you know what the person was feeding them?
I think if I were you I would return the quail first thing tomorrow morning.

Unfortunately they were in a tiny pen with maybe 50+ mature birds. Off the ground, with no protection for their feet.
He said they were eating a lower protein feed so maybe 20% protein game feed, probably less.
I will not bring them back. I’d rather they pass here in comfort than put them back in that tiny box they were in.

 

[007Sean]

I agree, definitely infected, either Staphyococci or some other (Bacillus ssp).
Personally, I think it's a 'loss cause' to try and treat, I think it has gone too far to reverse...if you can afford it, a vet visit would be best at this point. Sorry, your having to go through this!!!

 

[zoeechewz]

I agree, definitely infected, either Staphyococci or some other (Bacillus ssp).
Personally, I think it's a 'loss cause' to try and treat, I think it has gone too far to reverse...if you can afford it, a vet visit would be best at this point. Sorry, your having to go through this!!!

If it's too far to reverse, do you think antibiotics would help? I'm in a pretty rural area so getting to a vet is tough. I'll most likely just try to keep them comfortable for as long as possible.

 

[007Sean]

If it's too far to reverse, do you think antibiotics would help? I'm in a pretty rural area so getting to a vet is tough. I'll most likely just try to keep them comfortable for as long as possible.

Yes, antibiotics will help but without knowing exactly what your dealing with, it will be hard to figure out which antibiotic to use and the dosage!

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I just picked up my first lil flock yesterday and I noticed two girls cannot bear weight on one of their feet. Very warm to the touch but no scab or puncture to drain from. The first girl got her “good” foot cleaned and dressed as those scabs were obvious.
Both female between 8-10wks old
Very possible they’re inbred as another has a misaligned beak. Pls help me help them

If it's too far to reverse, do you think antibiotics would help? I'm in a pretty rural area so getting to a vet is tough. I'll most likely just try to keep them comfortable for as long as possible.

I agree, it does look more like infection due to being on wet litter/poor living conditions than from disease that affects the joints like Mycoplasma S.

I also agree, this isn't a very good way to start out with a first flock, but I also see that you have a soft heart and don't want to send them back to suffer in the conditions from which they came.
Prepare that you may lose them, or they may not get better, but if you are determined to try to help them heal, then I'll tell you what I would do.

If you are not planning on eating them, then I would use Baytril to treat the infection. It may not help, the infection may be too advanced in the joint, but you just don't know. If you are going to eat them, speak up, we'll figure out another medication to use.

The lesion on the non-swollen leg looks like contact dermatitis, I would swab it with Chlorhexidine. Apply a light coating of triple antibiotic ointment to a small piece of non stick gauze pad, put that on the lesion, then lightly wrap with sports wrap/vet wrap. I buy sports wrap in bulk off amazon, it can be cut into thin strips as you wish.

For the severely swollen joint, do the same, but wrap very lightly.
It's extremely important that wrapping is not tight, especially due to swelling. Change out the wrappings daily!! If the lesions or swollen tissue become mushy, then omit the ointment - the goal here is to heal up, but also for the lesion to dry up - being wet/damp has contributed to the lesion (see her feet too), so you're drying this up.
The joint - could be from this, but no way to know.

Anyway. I get long winded at times. I'd keep them off wire. If possible, place them on puppy pads and change those daily. Pine shavings will work too if that's what you have. Stir them up or freshen them. Quail poop a LOT.

Do you have photos of them - what they look like, you mention one as a cross beak? I'd also give them some vitamins. You can use something like Poultry Cell if you can find it. It's gotten pricey, so if you can't get that, then I'd at least get them on B vitamins. Pick up a bottle of B-Complex at the Dollar Store, Walmart, etc. and give each girl 1/4 tablet Daily for a couple of weeks.

What are you planning on feeding them?