Where have all the antibiotics gone?

[Perris]

Read this @sayccrn
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/antimicrobial-resistance

 

[sayccrn]

I see that you are from Latvia. How much would it cost you altogether to get amoxicillin tablets from a veterinarian for your chickens?

Who me? I am from The state of Georgia in the USA.

 

[AntiqueB]

While I understand antibiotic resistance and its implications, I also know that by the time a chicken presents as ill, there is often very little time. Added to this would be the stress of being separated from the flock for a vet visit, and the stress of the visit itself.

I have avian vets nearby, and would willingly spend the money if I thought it would help. However, I prefer to self-treat to the best of my ability, if I treat at all. Seeing a stressed chicken die is distressing to us both. I treat conservatively and cross my fingers.

 

[dawg53]

Who me? I am from The state of Georgia in the USA.

Go Dawgs!

 

[Perris]

I ... would willingly spend the money if I thought it would help. However, I prefer to self-treat to the best of my ability, if I treat at all. Seeing a stressed chicken die is distressing to us both. I treat conservatively and cross my fingers.

same here.

Plus I'd rather reserve the few remaining human-critical antibiotics for human use only, and not give them to animals, even our chickens.

 

[awagnon]

I recently had a hen that was in the same condition as yours. She was having liquid green poops. The advice I got here was that if a chicken isn't eating or eating enough that could be a reason for the green poo. I attempted to get her recovering by feeding her via tube but my girl was too sick. I suspect cancer because before she declined the second time, she was eating and defending her feeder well. She would not gain weight tho. You may want to get some nutri-drench and get her on that asap to help with her nutrition. I agree about the antibiotics, we really shouldn't be using them if we don't know for sure if it is bacterial. They won't treat a virus and each one only helps with certain types of infections as I understand it. The over use causing resistance is real. Did you make her vomit because her crop was not emptying? Did it smell sour/rancid? If so, you can try some Monistat or other female antifungal for yeast infections. I mix it with a tiny bit of shelled sunflower seeds and my girls scarf that down when they need it. Otherwise you can try to syringe it into the back of her mouth. Be careful NOT to get it in her airway in the center of her throat. There are some very good posts here on syringe feeding a chicken. IF she is losing weight, you may want to tube feed her for a day and see if that spurs her appetite. I was advised to only do this for a day to avoid her instinct to eat being over ridden. I hope she recovers.

My girl didn't make it, but she was VERY emaciated.

 

[sayccrn]

Read this @sayccrn
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/antimicrobi

While I understand antibiotic resistance and its implications, I also know that by the time a chicken presents as ill, there is often very little time. Added to this would be the stress of being separated from the flock for a vet visit, and the stress of the visit itself.

I have avian vets nearby, and would willingly spend the money if I thought it would help. However, I prefer to self-treat to the best of my ability, if I treat at all. Seeing a stressed chicken die is distressing to us both. I treat conservatively and cross my fingers.

You are so right?!! That's another reason why I prefer to try myself. I try everything else first before antibiotics. I do not use them for any reason, or just because.

 

[sayccrn]

I recently had a hen that was in the same condition as yours. She was having liquid green poops. The advice I got here was that if a chicken isn't eating or eating enough that could be a reason for the green poo. I attempted to get her recovering by feeding her via tube but my girl was too sick. I suspect cancer because before she declined the second time, she was eating and defending her feeder well. She would not gain weight tho. You may want to get some nutri-drench and get her on that asap to help with her nutrition. I agree about the antibiotics, we really shouldn't be using them if we don't know for sure if it is bacterial. They won't treat a virus and each one only helps with certain types of infections as I understand it. The over use causing resistance is real. Did you make her vomit because her crop was not emptying? Did it smell sour/rancid? If so, you can try some Monistat or other female antifungal for yeast infections. I mix it with a tiny bit of shelled sunflower seeds and my girls scarf that down when they need it. Otherwise you can try to syringe it into the back of her mouth. Be careful NOT to get it in her airway in the center of her throat. There are some very good posts here on syringe feeding a chicken. IF she is losing weight, you may want to tube feed her for a day and see if that spurs her appetite. I was advised to only do this for a day to avoid her instinct to eat being over ridden. I hope she recovers.

My girl didn't make it, but she was VERY emaciated.

I'm sorry your girl didn't make it. It is not sour crop, impacted crop, or anything else I can tell. she has a bad history of being egg bound, but she isn't presenting like she does when she has that, and she hasn't laid in months now. if anything it could be internal laying, which I would need antibiotics for. as I keep on saying, I do not give them over everything. but there are times when you need them, just like humans. also I have a new chicken that is also having bright green poop, leading me to think it's more than just my old hen. I know e coli can present with bright green poop too. which would require antibiotics.