Who here can speak chicken? Lol

[KoriAndBocboc]

Let's not forget I have been sexually frustrating this bird for about a month now too. She hasn't crowed in a few days since I stopped petting her back

 

[The Moonshiner]

Let's not forget I have been sexually frustrating this bird for about a month now too. She hasn't crowed in a few days since I stopped petting her back

I don't think you've been sexually frustrating him and I don't think if it were a female and sexually frustrated that would make her start learning to crow.

 

[KoriAndBocboc]

I don't think you've been sexually frustrating him and I don't think if it were a female and sexually frustrated that would make her start learning to crow.

I recently learned that petting a bird on its back and wings, can have negative behavioral and hormonal results. Iv been petting Bocbocs back and wings since I got her. There is lots of information on Google about why to not pet a birds back. I just had never come across it. Not saying that's definitely the reason for the crowing. But somethjng to consider. She hasn't crowed since I stopped petting her like that.

 

[Amer]

Maybe Bokbok is henny feathered. He does have a female specific pattern.
Henny feathering could be passed down to him by his mother.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen_feathering
Bokbok is far too young to be a crowing pullet.
Looks male to me.
You can't sexually frustrate a chicken that is that young. Petting them on the back doesn't cause sexual frustration anyways, it just makes them squat.

 

[The Moonshiner]

I recently learned that petting a bird on its back and wings, can have negative behavioral and hormonal results. Iv been petting Bocbocs back and wings since I got her. There is lots of information on Google about why to not pet a birds back. I just had never come across it. Not saying that's definitely the reason for the crowing. But somethjng to consider. She hasn't crowed since I stopped petting her like that.

What's that old saying.... When you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.
It's far more likely that he's crowing because he's an adolescent male learning how to crow.

 

[Jenbirdee]

I only speak duck

 

[KoriAndBocboc]

What's that old saying.... When you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.
It's far more likely that he's crowing because he's an adolescent male learning how to crow.

Yeah, I'm just hoping for the best that she's a girl I made loud by accident. I love this little bird and don't want to have to give her up. But if he actually is a male, I have no choice. I can't have a rooster in my apartment.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Yeah, I'm just hoping for the best that she's a girl I made loud by accident. I love this little bird and don't want to have to give her up. But if he actually is a male, I have no choice. I can't have a rooster in my apartment.

For sure. I doubt there's anybody reading your posts and not seeing the desperation and hope you have that it's a female.
I'm sure most or all of us are wishing that was the case. Personally I'm just not seeing it. To me he looks male and that's definitely a cockerel trying to find his voice in the recording.
I can understand you wanting to hold out hope and hold on to this bird as long as you can but one thing you don't want to do is hang on to him long enough that he does start growing and upset your neighbors. I can surely see some apartment dwellers not being fond of a rooster crowing in the building. If he becomes an issue you might just end up not being allowed to have any chickens.
Just in case things do not go your way have you talked to the breeder about returning him and picking up an older guaranteed pullet to go with the one you have? That's something I would do.

 

[FrostRanger]

I recently learned that petting a bird on its back and wings, can have negative behavioral and hormonal results. Iv been petting Bocbocs back and wings since I got her. There is lots of information on Google about why to not pet a birds back. I just had never come across it. Not saying that's definitely the reason for the crowing. But somethjng to consider. She hasn't crowed since I stopped petting her like that.

Not everything you find on the internet is true. Again, I pet my birds like that and none of them crow or are otherwise louder than usual compared to when I don't pet them as much. It is not unusual though for a cockerel to crow, not crow for a bit then start back up full force. Unfortunately there is no doubt in my mind that's a young cockerel

 

[KoriAndBocboc]

For sure. I doubt there's anybody reading your posts and not seeing the desperation and hope you have that it's a female.
I'm sure most or all of us are wishing that was the case. Personally I'm just not seeing it. To me he looks male and that's definitely a cockerel trying to find his voice in the recording.
I can understand you wanting to hold out hope and hold on to this bird as long as you can but one thing you don't want to do is hang on to him long enough that he does start growing and upset your neighbors. I can surely see some apartment dwellers not being fond of a rooster crowing in the building. If he becomes an issue you might just end up not being allowed to have any chickens.
Just in case things do not go your way have you talked to the breeder about returning him and picking up an older guaranteed pullet to go with the one you have? That's something I would do.

I have an excellent relationship with the breeder and she will take him back in a heartbeat if I needed to. That was part of the agreement, if they don't work out I need to give them back. Iv spoken with my neighbors and so far they don't have any issues at all and the family across the hall has a 2 year old that likes to have a little visit with them sometimes in the hall. My downstairs neighbor is borderline deaf. Right now she's okay with the amount of crowing she does, she doesn't hear it and she works from home. now when I'm not home they are in their coop with my bedroom door shut, and I'm going to get a noise reducing thing for the bottom of my apartment door to help further with any noise. I just love this stupid bird so much