Wild Turkey pic **Updated** lots more pics

[selinagil]

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i certainly wouldn't be advertising there that your allowing your turkey to breed with wild turkeys. surly destroying the wild turkey gene pool.

Your local DNR would probably love to here this one..

Luckily your not in my state or i would have reported you if i knew who your were..

Hate seeing people to allow this to happen to are wild life resources..

Charlie

I don't think he was "advertising" this as an intentional breeding--animals are very creative and somtimes this does happen without human intervention.

 

[wilds of pa]

Wrong this is allowing it to happen, when wild turkeys are in breeding season and you know it(this happen every year aorund the same time), you can pen your domesticated turkeys up until its over, simple and easy remedy to this.

thats the problem with people, no respect for wild life, plain simple...

If i seen someones pet turkey out while hunting wild turkeys during the season ill take it right out ..bang game over.



Charlie

 

[Struttn1]

Charlie...CHILL Dude . I never said my Royal Palm bred the wild hen. I was just wondering. Seems to me that if Tom had been throwing his genes around there would be several of them in the flock.

Our turkeys strayed into the woods by my highline right of way a couple of times last year and we promptly herded them back home. I now only allow a few of them at a time out of the pen and that has eliminated them roaming. They are penned at all times except when I allow a few at a time out to browse outside them pens.

If you desire to become the moral authority to judge who is disrespectful of wildlife and what law is then I recommend you educate yourself on Illinois law pertaining to wild turkeys and pen raised birds. I have hunted wild birds in Illinois since 1988 so I have taken the time to learn what the law allows and does not allow.

There is nothing in Illinois law that prohibits allowing domestic turkeys out of their pens to browse. The law does prohibit releasing pen raised birds into the wild. There is a huge difference in the two.

Now if you have any concerns about the wildness of our wild birds around here just feel free to order you a non-resident tag and come on down and I think you will find our birds as wiley and wary as any wild birds you have in Pa.

Now what I don't advise is you to come slinking around taking potshots at my pets especially if I am at home. Now you have a good day.

 

[wilds of pa]

I'm chilled...Well I'm glad to here you keep them penned now!

In my eyes law or no law its not about that, but allowing domesticated birds to free range is a responsibility by there owner, it would only be out of respect for the wild life not to allow any domestic turkey to inter act with wild turkeys...dont you agree??

Hopefully its fluke of a wild turkey dressed in white by some genetic fluke or rareity...

Ive been hunting wild eastern turkey here for 33 years. never took a pot shot in my life, its all real..3-1/2" magnums in a 835 mossberg...Would love to hunt one out there as well, maybe one day..

during turkey season if in the wilds there is domesticated turkey it is legal game here in pa. So folks who allow your birds to run loose during the breeding/hunting season..watch out there are many hunters that will bag and tag um..

Charlie

 

[Chicky Tocks]

Struttin - thanks for the turkey pics! My husband was telling me about a flock of around 12 that he came across in the middle of the road the other day and I was sorry that I wasn't with him and missed it.

I think in every breed of bird or animal (wild or domestic) there is a throwback gene that occasionally will bring about some albinoism. I've seen white deer too. Maybe that's the result of someone's white nanny goat getting loose and getting bred by a buck.

Loved the pics!

 

[monarc23]

That beautiful lighter hen could easily still be a pure wild turkey, and just got some funkay genes going on. We had a hen around here not as light as that but close last year that I snapped a few pictures of as the flock worked their way through our yard. I just assumed she was a lighter phased one.

I've also seen a pure white starling and im sure no ones dove got to it

 

[wilds of pa]

Maybe that's the result of someone's white nanny goat getting loose and getting bred by a buck.

who would be some dumb to think that now!!..lol hahahah

yup seen many piebalds and pure whites..mostly at petting zoo's..aaa but there in the wild to..lol

after 33 years hunting turkeys never seen a white turkey yet..but they are out there, some more than likely from people letting theres loose is part of it..

Charlie​

 

[Struttn1]

I have seen numerous white phased wild turkeys over the years in several different areas of southern Illinois. Used to be a sporting goods store in Carterville Illinois and they had a fullbody flying mount of an albino wild gobbler. He was solid white except for the head, waddles, beard and legs. They even had pink albino eyes in the mount so I am assuming the bird had the pink eyes. Beautiful.

 

[wilds of pa]

Yes Ive seen some mounts here as well of albino phase to..they are awesome looking.. Just i know from talking with the pa game commission it is not a common thing here in pa, it is at its best a rarity to see them. The more i here of them the more leads me to believe its domesticated birds being introduced into the wild here in pa..

Charlie

 

[mooman]

i certainly wouldn't be advertising there that your allowing your turkey to breed with wild turkeys. surly destroying the wild turkey gene pool.

Please justify your statements about how interbreeding between domestic turkeys and wild turkeys "destroys" the wild turkey gene pool.

Domesticating a wild animal does not create genetic variation, it reduces it. The genes that our domestic turkey's carry already exist in the wild populations!! The wild populations are where the genes originated in the first place. All we have done is select certain combinations of genes and "fix" them to create a standard breed.

I would certainly not condone releasing large numbers of domesticated trukeys into the wild, but the occational interbreeding of wild and domestics amounts to no more than a tiny ripple in the vast ocean of natural selection and evolutionary time.

I recall an experiment done on fox where different coat colors were selected for. It took many generations to "fix" coat color in several lines of fox. When these lines were allowed to reproduce naturally the resulting offspring again resembled wild foxes within a few generations. What took man many many years to create, nature was able to undo very quickly.

I might agree if turkeys had been domesticated for thousands of years and barely resembled the ancestral form (say like dogs or chickens), or if we were talking about some transgenic turkey that had had duck DNA added to it for whatever reason, but heritage breeds are just not that advanced as far as domestic animals go.

edited to add info and reduce snippy tone (sorry)​