Wisconsin "Cheeseheads"

[TOR]

Many years ago I was working in our large garden which is now all sweet corn. Large spray vehicle from coop came to spray the field next to me. RR corn. I could smell it. I left came back out later.

There have been issues of spray drift, one I have seen last few years is dicamba. I belive need special training for dicamba. For use with soybeans

I have weeds in grass by barn some other areas. Whats new? I could use 2 4 d which will not hurt grass but kill broadleaf. There are some other methods, aerate and seed try choke out the weeds, soil test maybe needs ph balance, low on nutrients. Anyway I dont spray because of the chickens and my well. Many herbicides are systemic and the chickens eat the grass and weeds.

I cover crop cerial grain (winter rye) weed control, green manure, erosion control. Also winter rye will sprout and grow at low temperatures and gives something for the deer.

I grow hybrid sweet corn so I use a restricted use prepant herbicide. As far as the research I have done the corn plants do not take up the herbicide. I have not been able to find total conclusive data, best I can find. RR sweet corn will take up the glosphate (systemic), RR alot more expensive for seed. Though sweet corn from RR sweet is said to be safe, I have always wondered by the time there is sweet corn on the plant how much glosohate is in the plant yet ( if any) and if any glosphate is in the corn ear itself? Cant find any information.( probably some somewhere I gave up)

Farmers do use glosphate sometimes for burn down, oats etc. Sometimes harvesting weather, etc The glosphate burns down the oates and they dry faster for faster harvesting. This is why finding more glosphate in cerial grains and finding glosphate in cerials at the store.

Also as a note RR corn being sprayed is usually a mixture of different herbicides., due to the fact herbicide resistant weeds.

My thought on the topic hericides. I dont use insecticides and in the fall my sweet corn will have earworms at times. I lose 10 to 15 percent business, I show people the worms. So they know what they are getting.

 

[DoodlesDuckies]

Many years ago I was working in our large garden which is now all sweet corn. Large spray vehicle from coop came to spray the field next to me. RR corn. I could smell it. I left came back out later.

There have been issues of spray drift, one I have seen last few years is dicamba. I belive need special training for dicamba. For use with soybeans

I have weeds in grass by barn some other areas. Whats new? I could use 2 4 d which will not hurt grass but kill broadleaf. There are some other methods, aerate and seed try choke out the weeds, soil test maybe needs ph balance, low on nutrients. Anyway I dont spray because of the chickens and my well. Many herbicides are systemic and the chickens eat the grass and weeds.

I cover crop cerial grain (winter rye) weed control, green manure, erosion control. Also winter rye will sprout and grow at low temperatures and gives something for the deer.

I grow hybrid sweet corn so I use a restricted use prepant herbicide. As far as the research I have done the corn plants do not take up the herbicide. I have not been able to find total conclusive data, best I can find. RR sweet corn will take up the glosphate (systemic), RR alot more expensive for seed. Though sweet corn from RR sweet is said to be safe, I have always wondered by the time there is sweet corn on the plant how much glosohate is in the plant yet ( if any) and if any glosphate is in the corn ear itself? Cant find any information.( probably some somewhere I gave up)

Farmers do use glosphate sometimes for burn down, oats etc. Sometimes harvesting weather, etc The glosphate burns down the oates and they dry faster for faster harvesting. This is why finding more glosphate in cerial grains and finding glosphate in cerials at the store.

Also as a note RR corn being sprayed is usually a mixture of different herbicides., due to the fact herbicide resistant weeds.

My thought on the topic hericides. I dont use insecticides and in the fall my sweet corn will have earworms at times. I lose 10 to 15 percent business, I show people the worms. So they know what they are getting.

You are WAY over my head. I think I googled 80% of what you said. LOL! ( I enjoyed it) The neighbors put in a cover crop mix of radish and blah blah blah...she said prob 3-4 different plants. The field they rent , the owners would rather they no-till everything. Gets a bit complicated with the year we have had, she said this year the owner said they could till finally if they HAD too. They are going too. Last year was a mess by us...WAY too much rain. Nobody could get in the fields and if they did, it didn't grow well.

Back to spraying...big coop equipment is the norm around me. Big farm equipment in general. The days of the small family milking barns are slowly dying. Big dairies and cash cropping. Land prices are insane now also. I have no idea the chemicals they are putting on the fields but they seem to spray for everything and anything. Just didn't want my wandering birds to die from it all.

 

[bigzio]

Good information given on the spraying topic.
I also have big farm equipment spraying next
to my coops on my rented property. I think one
should always be concerned of the unknowns in
regard to long-term results on the poultry.
My practice is to keep the poultry away from
the crops until the spray has dried ... 30 minutes
or so.
I've never lost a bird to the farmers spraying, but
I'm always making sure the flock keeps away from
the wet plants.
I don't like chemical farming near the coops, and the
farmers are more careful around them than they normally
would be.
Caution is good in this situation.

Stay Safe ... bigz

 

[TOR]

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/n...nds-glyphosate-levels-drop-oat-based-products

 

[babylady4]

It would be safe to assume that plants treated with glyphosate will contain residuals of the chemical. Our grain crops are contaminated; testing completed on products made from oats, wheat, etc. have found to contain glyphosate.

Chicks are growing like weeds…. looks like there are at least three roosters in the group.

 

[Amer]

I wouldn't be surprised if there is glyphosate in our food, however, fortunately it isn't harmful to non-plants.

The problem is, inactive ingredients in the formulation used as adjuvants aren't as carefully tested so I could see how they could cause problems. A herbicide adjuvant is a substance added to herbicide formulations or spray solutions to enhance their performance or modify their application characteristics.

 

[Amer]

I wouldn't be surprised if there is glyphosate in our food, however, fortunately it isn't harmful to non-plants. View attachment 4107097View attachment 4107102
The problem is, inactive ingredients in the formulation used as adjuvants aren't as carefully tested so I could see how they could cause problems. A herbicide adjuvant is a substance added to herbicide formulations or spray solutions to enhance their performance or modify their application characteristics.

Disclaimer: if used as directed. Even oxygen can be toxic if in too high of concentrations.

 

[TOR]

Disclaimer: if used as directed. Even oxygen can be toxic if in too high of concentrations.

Smoking a pack of cigarettes prolly not hurt a person much, smoking a pack a day for 30 years, different story.
What I wonder is spray (roundup ready) RR field corn or or RR sweet corn with glosphate and other chemicals, modes of action. The chemicals being systemic ( absorbs the chemicals) how many parts per million of the chemicals are in the plant.When the plant produces the ear is there any chemicals in the ear and if so how many parts per million? Or after awhile do the chemicals dissappear or become inert (inactive)I will probably never know the answer.

This is the reason I do not spray or use chemicals on my grass, weeds. The plants absorb and the chemicals just dont dissapear. The chickens eat the grass, weeds so how many parts per million are they eating if I spray?

Anyway many things, chemicals are safe if used correctly.

Unlikely to be human carcinogin. When I ask team member in store, Where is your motor oil? When they answer, " I think it is isle 15", tells me they dont know.

Unlikely tells me they dont know.

Sorry in my older years I have become abit cynical.

 

[Badger Farm]

Well, hello everyone! Life caught up to me, and I finally have time to come back to this group!

We have a Sapphire Gem who is broody and sitting on 14 eggs, which are mixed Ameracaunas. Moved her out of the coop into a nesting box in a dog crate, with food and water out for her. She’s been in there since Tuesday, and I check on her twice daily.

It appears that she hasn’t eaten or had any water (or pooped) since then. She tolerated me pulling the eggs out to candle them last night (with a few well-placed pecks!), and let me pet her this morning.

I’m worried that her health is going to decline and she may die. Is thus normal? Before we moved her, she was leaving the nest once daily. Thanks!

 

[saysfaa]

It isn't all that unusual. If has been that long, it is best to push her off the nest at least once or twice a day. I did that with Mocha; she went straight to the dust bath, then ate, drank, pooped and went back to the nest.

By "push", I mean literally push or pick up and set down a foot or so off the nest or some such thing. Some hens might take direction without physically moving them; Mocha has been the only one I had who went broody so I don't know about that part.