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It's all fun and games until you come home to bloody battle. I'm not picking on you, but I've seen what happens when people don't take this seriously. All it takes is a couple flyes with a long spurred cock, for Legs to lose an eye.

He's not gonna learn, you need to seperate.

My cocks blow out my eardrum when they crow.

Nice bird, he's got great carriage.

I'm waiting on eggs down here. Everybody got nesting boxes last week so next step is eggs.

Thats a crazy hen, I doubt she was laying at 16 though?

My birds don't get any serous spur growth till they are bull stags.

I posted this boy on the oriental thread, but this is a thai stag.

They're pretty and would likely throw rose comb birds. Maybe grades?

Do you have Hight/weight on Sherman/Azog/Indo?

Wow, he is a beast!

Any updated pics of Sherman? @Florida Bullfrog?

Right, I agree. I am just saying that a thick squat asil is of the same purity as a long thin bird.

Asils, like all gamefowl are bred for competition not uniformity. Yes they share traits people think help them compete, but that is not their main purpose. All the birds you presented are likely Asils, just from different hands. I know this doesn't help you clear things up though.

The Bekisar would also account for the lack of wattles.

The lack of hackle feathers on the Bekisar looks very oriental like. A highly inbred junglefowl crossed over a few times with a Bekisar could give is the birds we have now. Except there is no accounting for the drive. But wolves don't have that drive and there are game dogs out there, therefore...

They're good looking birds.

They could just be VERY inbred junglefowl. Looking at the parrot-beaked asils. They are a more extreme oriental. One could then assume that inbreeding for years and years like many oriental breeders do, would create the bird we have now. And just crossing with other Gallus strains would add to that.

Kinda makes you wonder if there is a different genetic component. Like some kind of extinct junglefowl.

Welp you can't unsee that