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As far as I can see it is a hen that is killing the hawk, not a rooster. Probably a mother hen protecting her offspring.

Just dremeled one of my big roosters yesterday evening and took the time: 4 seconds each spur, no blood, no panic whatsoever. Important: I fixed his toes with some medical adhesive tape to make sure they would not get in the way.

A nice dremel and towel is all your need for non-bloody and painless removal. But of course, a file works fine too.

I am very sorry, Bob.

I would not quite call it a relief with the suspected Mareks diagnostic. EDIT: Read farther on and saw that you meant their absence etc. Sorry.

How are you doing @Shadrach ? Are you still in GB or already back in Spain with your flock?

So that was you passing the other day...

No need to hide, Shad. :cool: