Avian influenza found in South Carolina

[Sonya9]

I don't see any reference about TSC culling chicks in that link ...is there another link to look at? Just did a quick google news search about it, couldn't find anything that way either , yet.

It was mentioned on another platform. The poster said she got a text message from a TSC employee saying all the chicks in NC stores were culled overnight.

I thought it sounded bogus but now believe it is true after I saw the article on the ban of public sales. If TSC had chicks in stock and could no longer sell them they most likely DID cull them. Heck their lawyers might have even said "destroy the inventory" instead of giving them away in case it leads to infections/lawsuits.

This old thread claims they discount them or donate the ones that get to old to sell but the risk of avian influenza and the new law makes that riskier for a huge corporation with "deep pockets". Who knows it, may have also varied by store.
https://www.quora.com/What-do-they-...ld-in-the-springtime-at-Tractor-supply-stores

 

[allbirds4me]

Minnesota has banned all public sales through May 1st ( for now) also...this will be the trend in the states most affected, am afraid.
Wonder what is happening with people selling their birds on craigslist/other places on the net ? I would think the authorities are policing those sites.
For our farm no new birds are coming in/none going out for now ( not even eggs) just to be safe.

https://www.kare11.com/article/news...d-flu/89-bc3c2b89-3816-404c-be93-ebae983562a1

 

[allbirds4me]

If TSC had chicks in stock and could no longer sell them they most likely DID cull them

you're prob. right about that.

 

[TooCheep]

Wonder what is happening with people selling their birds on craigslist/other places on the net ? I would think the authorities are policing those sites.

I really doubt many local police departments are much aware of this. There is no reason that private sales shouldn't continue as long as the seller hasn't had problems and the buyer follows good quarantine procedures.

There is no reason to make the soon-to-come chicken/egg shortage even more severe.

 

[Brooks_]

I really doubt many local police departments are much aware of this

It would more likely be the state dept. of agriculture or possibly health department than what we think of as local police. I'm sure both of them keep an eye on what's advertised for private sale.

 

[AgnesGray]

Pretty sure Day old chicks are still allowed to be sold.

Curious, I went to Meyer hatchery site... Can they ship everywhere? Any updates? are they restricted from certain states? Here is what I found:

https://www.meyerhatchery.com/Avian-Influenza-and-Biosecurity-c128312082

https://meyerhatchery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/5146189092749

The eggs at a large hatchery seem to be incubated completely separate from the breeding flocks. I'm pretty sure this is true for many/ all hatcheries. Additionally, the heat of incubation is supposed to kill any HPAI virus (is what I've read). However, its not baby chicks spreading it. Of course, they may not have updated for NC - the last update was a few days ago.

Check out any updates at your favorite hatchery - see if they are unable to ship to any particular states. I only checked Meyer.

The eggs also go through a sanitation spray room where they're disinfected.

 

[Sonya9]

It would more likely be the state dept. of agriculture or possibly health department than what we think of as local police. I'm sure both of them keep an eye on what's advertised for private sale.

I know and agree. I just posted the article cause they mentioned that small birds and mice can also track it in.

Yes it is possible for it to be tracked in but the smaller the viral load, the less likely (or milder) the illness usually is since the immune system has more time to stop it. A very small dose could easily cause antibodies/immunity with no illness whatsoever.

The studies from other countries show it only killed 11% of layers in commercial facilities so slaughtering endangered species in zoos is truly insane (though that won't stop the gov...it is their policy after all!)

 

[Sydney65]

Pretty sure Day old chicks are still allowed to be sold.

Curious, I went to Meyer hatchery site... Can they ship everywhere? Any updates? are they restricted from certain states? Here is what I found:

https://www.meyerhatchery.com/Avian-Influenza-and-Biosecurity-c128312082

https://meyerhatchery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/5146189092749

The eggs at a large hatchery seem to be incubated completely separate from the breeding flocks. I'm pretty sure this is true for many/ all hatcheries. Additionally, the heat of incubation is supposed to kill any HPAI virus (is what I've read). However, its not baby chicks spreading it. Of course, they may not have updated for NC - the last update was a few days ago.

Check out any updates at your favorite hatchery - see if they are unable to ship to any particular states. I only checked Meyer.

I checked The Guinea Farm last night, no mention of issues hope it stays that way, many Natl hatcheries in Iowa

 

[Sydney65]

So many. They got to have some idea how this is happening. I'd love to know what they are discussing pertaining to that.

In addition to common vectors, they're now including the sparrows and rodents as spreaders. A short time ago they were primarily pointing at waterfowl. There are limits on chicken meat purchases here now,and empty shelves.

 

[allbirds4me]

I really doubt many local police departments are much aware of this. There is no reason that private sales shouldn't continue as long as the seller hasn't had problems and the buyer follows good quarantine procedures.

There is no reason to make the soon-to-come chicken/egg shortage even more severe.

I didn't mean POLICE dept. " literally", I meant the ag. depts/feds. ....to "police" something is a loose term for being watched by an enforcing entity is all.
Our birds we sell are not of commercial value and wouldn't affect any " shortages", they're just highly sought after yard ornaments, so to speak. and so forth but we've made good $ off them for many years, this year is going to be a bust.
Our choosing to halt sales/incoming birds is simply to keep our farm as safe as possible, have practiced stringent biosecurity for years .... this is just an added precaution.