A Peafowl Mystery

[peafowl_Lover]

Yes it's not fair on them, I live near a pine forest and recently people started chopping it down, and u never had trouble with them before, but maybe their food source was gone and they had to look somewhere else, I guess they are just trying to survive and feed their family's but its a bummer when they take birds. So I guess we are all to blame

 

[peafowl_Lover]

I don't think the pine martens would think it's fair that humans have completely destroyed all of their habitat and now want to remove the small number of them that are left because they believe they are a nuisance.

Not to mention the fact that they are often blamed without proof too. I mean, how do we even know any attack was by a pine marten or by any particular species without a confirmed sighting? Even if we did know for sure, should that mean it's ok to just get rid of them?

Like the fox, pine martens are villainised and persecuted by humans who think they are above nature and want to control everything in their environment instead of working in harmony with it. These animals have just as much right to live their lives here as we do. There are ways to protect our domesticated animals and birds while also valuing and caring for our wildlife.

They are protected because they are one of our native mammals and were almost extinct here at one point. Their numbers have grown since they have been protected in the 70s but, as you said, they are still one of our rarest mammals. They are still on the vulnerable species list. So after nearly 50 years of being protected they have only gone from being on the brink of extinction to still being very vulnerable.

They are omnivores and have a very varied diet. The number of attacks on poultry is tiny in comparison to the amount of help they provide such as helping to control rodent populations and other pests. They are part of a complex system of biodiversity. Everything works together. Everything is interdependent, including humans. I think the biggest difference between humans and all other species is that we seem to have forgotten this interdependance and our connection to nature.

If you're talking about live trapping and relocating, I think you may be acutally be allowed do that but you should check to make sure. You could ask your local NPWS about that and they may even help you with it.

I don't mind the wildlife, I'd never hunt or shoot them, I just lock my birds away in the night for their safety. So I just need to look out for my birds but also consider that the wildlife need food too. Its not fair that all their homes are being destroyed, they are just trying to adapt.

 

[lyndafree]

I think I can answer your question. I had several pea fowl for years, they where free range, slept in large Lime trees, bred successfully until one day Pine Martens arrived in the area, I lost all except for one, like you no sign of feathers, nothing. I then found out that when a bird was dead, they don’t shed feathers ( the shin must contract) so I assumed that the pine martens went up the tree and killed them on the branches. I was in despair until some one recommended to wrap large sheets of tin around the trunk of the tree…. All was well, they were safe. The only warning the Pine marten can leap from tree to tree, fortunately the said tree was isolated .
Pine Martens are beautiful to look at but kill for the pleasure.
I hope that is helpful.

No animal kills for pleasure , they see only famine or feast , I am afraid the only being that kills for pleasure are human

 

[KsKingBee]

No animal kills for pleasure , they see only famine or feast , I am afraid the only being that kills for pleasure are human

That statement can't be further from the truth. Two examples are the domestic dog that kills for sport or fun without eating the dead and fox are known to kill every bird in a pen and only leave with one carcass.

 

[lyndafree]

Domestic dogs are just that, domesticated by man, in the wild they would have to kill to survive …..and I can assure you foxes do not kill for pleasure , as I said they see only famine or feast , they WILL kill all the chickens in one pen firstly to quiet them and they will do it swiftly ,with a view to taking one and then coming back for the others ,except the human who keeps the chickens see all his birds dead and assumes the fox killed for pleasure , remember foxes have families but they don’t have supermarkets like you do , everyday is a struggle to feed her family . I still maintain there is only one being on their planet who kills for pleasure and they are reading this right now

 

[lyndafree]

Domestic dogs are just that, domesticated by man, in the wild they would have to kill to survive …..and I can assure you foxes do not kill for pleasure , as I said they see only famine or feast , they WILL kill all the chickens in one pen firstly to quiet them and they will do it swiftly ,with a view to taking one and then coming back for the others ,except the human who keeps the chickens see all his birds dead and assumes the fox killed for pleasure , remember foxes have families but they don’t have supermarkets like you do , everyday is a struggle to feed her family . I still maintain there is only one being on their planet who kills for pleasure and they are reading this right now

BTW they do not have carrier bags and can carry one bird only

 

[KsKingBee]

https://wildexplained.com/blog/anim...ng minks, weasels, and raccoons, among others.

 

[peafowl_Lover]

That was quite interesting @KsKingBee .
I don't think it's very nice that they'd kill all but take 1, you'd get over them killing 1 and taking 1.

 

[lyndafree]

I live in the south of the Uk and the same thing happened here last night, a young peafowl went missing from the tree and the mother called all night , she is looking for her baby still. Could it be a lone mink ?

 

[lyndafree]

I don't think the pine martens would think it's fair that humans have completely destroyed all of their habitat and now want to remove the small number of them that are left because they believe they are a nuisance.

Not to mention the fact that they are often blamed without proof too. I mean, how do we even know any attack was by a pine marten or by any particular species without a confirmed sighting? Even if we did know for sure, should that mean it's ok to just get rid of them?

Like the fox, pine martens are villainised and persecuted by humans who think they are above nature and want to control everything in their environment instead of working in harmony with it. These animals have just as much right to live their lives here as we do. There are ways to protect our domesticated animals and birds while also valuing and caring for our wildlife.

They are protected because they are one of our native mammals and were almost extinct here at one point. Their numbers have grown since they have been protected in the 70s but, as you said, they are still one of our rarest mammals. They are still on the vulnerable species list. So after nearly 50 years of being protected they have only gone from being on the brink of extinction to still being very vulnerable.

They are omnivores and have a very varied diet. The number of attacks on poultry is tiny in comparison to the amount of help they provide such as helping to control rodent populations and other pests. They are part of a complex system of biodiversity. Everything works together. Everything is interdependent, including humans. I think the biggest difference between humans and all other species is that we seem to have forgotten this interdependance and our connection to nature.

If you're talking about live trapping and relocating, I think you may be acutally be allowed do that but you should check to make sure. You could ask your local NPWS about that and they may even help you with it.

I like your answer ,as it is very much inline with my way of thinking, the only animal that kills for fun is humans .