Air sac shift

[Maka]

Hello,

This is not my first time incubating eggs however it’s only my second time incubating ones that I have purchased.

I have purchased both quail and chicken eggs. And they both have a shifted air sac.

On some of my quail eggs this is an issue and on mostly all of my chicken eggs this is an issue. I actually had to throw some of the eggs out due to a detached air cell.

I am just concerned that these poor chicks are going to develop and not be healthy? Or not be able to hatch with a shifted air sac.

I’ve seen movement in some of the eggs.

I am working on making a proper head on this little flashlight as it has better lumens to candle and doesn’t heat up. So don’t judge the candling setup.

There is also a dip to some of the air sacs?? I just thought I should add that since i noticed it as a tag.

 

[Cheekychook11]

I’m not very experienced but I recently hatched some eggs with air cells that looked similar to that, and they hatched fine, what day are the eggs on?

 

[Kiki]

Looks fine to me too.
I have hatched out detached air cell eggs with no issues. They aren't immediate trash.

 

[Maka]

I will see if I can get a better photo of another one. Some have an air cell that’s in the shape of an 8.

I just am concerned that these shipment got too cold and it’s causing this meaning the embryos won’t develop like they should. I guess.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I just am concerned that these shipment got too cold and it’s causing this meaning the embryos won’t develop like they should. I guess.

If the embryo lived through shipment it has a chance to develop into a healthy chick. I've had a hatch rate of 20% with shipped eggs. I had another hatch rate of 100%. Those eggs were from the same flock. Shipping can cause serious problems with hatch rates but the chicks that I hatched were healthy.

If they are developing give them a chance.

 

[Maka]

If the embryo lived through shipment it has a chance to develop into a healthy chick. I've had a hatch rate of 20% with shipped eggs. I had another hatch rate of 100%. Those eggs were from the same flock. Shipping can cause serious problems with hatch rates but the chicks that I hatched were healthy.

If they are developing give them a chance.

I always give my little guys a shot.

I’ll take a photo of one of the 8 shaped air cells. And post it because it is odd.

My concern is that I only hatch one. And little chicks should not be raised alone. I’m at minimum hoping for two.

 

[Maka]

If the embryo lived through shipment it has a chance to develop into a healthy chick. I've had a hatch rate of 20% with shipped eggs. I had another hatch rate of 100%. Those eggs were from the same flock. Shipping can cause serious problems with hatch rates but the chicks that I hatched were healthy.

If they are developing give them a chance.

Since you have had hatching experience,
My other question is.

When you have an egg and it’s rolling around like it’s going to hatch, but then stops and doesn’t pip like the rest do what should you do?

 

[Ridgerunner]

When you have an egg and it’s rolling around like it’s going to hatch, but then stops and doesn’t pip like the rest do what should you do?

Personally I do nothing. If the chick isn't strong enough to pip I don't expect it to make it.

Before they hatch the chick needs to absorb the yolk, dry up the blood vessels in the membrane that separates it from the inside of the shell, and do something with the gunk around it so it dries out nice and fluffy when it hatches. Some chicks do a lot of that before they pip so when they pip they can hatch pretty quickly. Some wait until the pip to do a lot of that. You don't know how far along a chick is with any of this when it pips. If you try to help it before it is ready to hatch you can kill it. A common example is that if you chip away at the shell you can rupture a blood vessel in that membrane and the chick can bleed to death.

If a chick pips and then stops, it might be shrink-wrapped and unable to hatch. That's when the membrane surrounding it dries up and shrinks so tight the chick cannot move. You can usually tell from the way the membrane looks. If I can tell that a chick is shrink wrapped I try to help it. But if a chick cannot even pip I can't judge that.

Doing all this can be a lot of work. Sometimes they just stop to rest. That may be before pip, it may be after. Often it is both.

 

[Maka]

These are the strange air pockets I am getting. The brown egg photos are of the same egg. And the green ones are different eggs. One pocket is literally chapped like a heart on the green one.

And the brown one appears to have two separate pockets. One photo is candling of the side and the other is of the bottom. On the brown egg