Ameraucana Genetics Clarification

JesWith3

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Which color Ameraucana parents would produce 50% Silver - 25% Black - 25% Splash? Would ANY pairing be able to produce this percentage of these colors?
I purchased a dozen hatching eggs from someone who appears to be at least an honest seller. She has very good feedback, but that probability isn't making sense to me (from my very limited understanding of genetics).
From my understanding Silver is kind of rare, no?
Can someone please help me understand? Pictures of her flock show several black Ameraucanas, what APPEAR to be a few blue, and a rooster that doesn't resemble any picture of Silver Ameraucanas that I have seen (but does look to be blue?).

That aside. I currently have a flock of Black Australorps. Might any of you have Ameraucana x Black Australorp crosses and have pictures you could share with me? I plan to keep an Ameraucana roo to keep with my mixed flock of Australorps and Ameraucana hens and would love to see what they could potentially produce. Thanks everyone :)
 
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Does this seller have more than one flock: a flock of silvers and a flock of blue, black, splash? Because no responsible breeder would breed those colors together and sell them as Ameraucanas, at least not without telling people what they are getting first.
Pure silvers and pure blacks won't come from the same pen unless their parents are totally mixed because mixed black and silver birds are black with silver leakage.
The breeder seems knowledgeable
That's why I'm wondering if you haven't seen pictures of the whole flock? Maybe there was a silver flock with silver hens too? What variety were these advertised as?
And when you say APPEAR to be blue, what do you mean by that? Do you mean they have some kind of silver (or gold) leakage going on?

Black Ameraucana plus Australorp would produce exactly what you'd expect. Their pea combs would resemble an intermediate between pea combs and single combs and they'd have a beard that is smaller than an Ameraucana's beard. They'd be black. They'd lay pale green eggs. No surprises there
 
Does this seller have more than one flock: a flock of silvers and a flock of blue, black, splash? Because no responsible breeder would breed those colors together and sell them as Ameraucanas, at least not without telling people what they are getting first.
Pure silvers and pure blacks won't come from the same pen unless their parents are totally mixed because mixed black and silver birds are black with silver leakage.
The breeder seems knowledgeable
That's why I'm wondering if you haven't seen pictures of the whole flock? Maybe there was a silver flock with silver hens too? What variety were these advertised as?
And when you say APPEAR to be blue, what do you mean by that? Do you mean they have some kind of silver (or gold) leakage going on?

Black Ameraucana plus Australorp would produce exactly what you'd expect. Their pea combs would resemble an intermediate between pea combs and single combs and they'd have a beard that is smaller than an Ameraucana's beard. They'd be black. They'd lay pale green eggs. No surprises there
Thank you so much for your reply. When I say they APPEAR to be blue, I am simply saying that they appear to be blue judging by my very untrained eyes with very limited knowledge. So, they LOOK like what I know to be blues. I hope that makes sense.
I suppose it is very possibly the seller has more than one flock and I am only seeing pictures of one of said flocks and MAYBE she will be including eggs from both flocks, hence the percentages she gave in the listing? One can hope this is the case. Or maybe the seller was in a hurry and mistakingly typed silver instead of blue? Either way, I did email the seller and am currently awaiting a response (I'll update here). Also, am I correct in thinking there is some red leakage (is that a thing??) on that rooster? Is this "normal" or "acceptable" for the breed?
These are the pictures I am seeing...
 

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I think what the seller was meaning was BBS (Blue, Black, Splash). To my knowledge, no crossing would throw you silvers along with black and splash. That's too my knowledge though, don't write me on that.
Some people get silver and blue mixed up at times, I've had that happen to me before selling some of my bantam's.
 
With those percentages it makes the most sense for the breeder to have mistakenly typed "silver" instead of blue. And yes, that is definitely red leakage, which can happen as a result of crossing colors or working on a project. It's "unacceptable" if you're planning on breeding to standard or showing, but could be fine depending on your personal goals.

Those birds are not silver. From the Ameraucana Alliance page:
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Silver hen
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Silver rooster
 

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