Breed ID

I agree with your guesses on genders. The first cockerel is beautiful!
He is! That's why I'm trying to figure out anything I can about his breed! He's got the neck and shoulders of a Bielefelder, but the rest of him from coloration to size is off. Previous guesses people made were that he might be some sort of Olive Egger or Legbar, but, now that he's bigger, he doesn't look like the pictures Meyer's web site for those breeds.
 
I don't think there are any Sapphire Gems in the flock. First, Meyers doesn't carry them. Second, as they've continued to grow, they look less like Sapphire Gem. I posted pictures several weeks later of the first bird. He's got a lot of red on him now. The second one has feathered feet so I'm thinking some kind of Marans.
 

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