breeding my chicken. using what i have!.

[MjR]

My two chickens I'd like to breed together. Big red is a new Hampshire. From an auction, and the road island red is from rural king , of Clarksville Tn. My question is can I use these two birds to grow a flock and cont the blood line I get. My plan is to increase size of the road island red while keeping a standard of color. I know I need to color feed for a look I want. But Will the baby's be worth keeping and using also after culling the flock of course.thought about taking the biggest hen from these and breeding to. A good RiR rooster . . I do not want hybrid birds. What I read is both birds should be of same blood. Just selected breed for years. I like both type bird could not make choices so I would like to combine to two breed into my own ... Any advice will be greatful. Please don't bash my birds. I just want healthy birds that produces both meat and egg.that I can breed for my family.

 

[keesmom]

If you are just breeding birds for yourself, for eggs and meat, does it really matter if they are hybrids or crosses? As long as they are producing eggs in quantities you like, and a decent carcass size, does it matter how close they are to SOP for RIR? Do you want to show at some point or sell pure chicks and hatching eggs?

What do you mean you "have to color feed for a look I want"? The deep dark red you see in exhibition RIR isn't achieved by color in the feed, it's through selective breeding.

 

[MjR]

If you are just breeding birds for yourself, for eggs and meat, does it really matter if they are hybrids or crosses? As long as they are producing eggs in quantities you like, and a decent carcass size, does it matter how close they are to SOP for RIR? Do you want to show at some point or sell pure chicks and hatching eggs?

What do you mean you "have to color feed for a look I want"? The deep dark red you see in exhibition RIR isn't achieved by color in the feed, it's through selective breeding.

It read in the rir journal other day. Was a term I just kinda used. As far as the roster hangs very dark.. you asked. What's it matter hybrid, cross... Cross is ok. Hybrids throw out random types of baby chicks. Not meaning they don't produce but will not come close to pure breeds/ cross breed

 

[twisted-acres-farm]

Well way back when the New Hampshire was actually developed from the RIR

The New Hampshire breed of chicken originated in the state of New Hampshire in the United States. Poultry farmers, starting with Rhode Island Reds and performing generation after generation of selective breeding, intensified the characteristics of early maturity, rapid full feathering, and production of large brown eggs. The mature birds are a rich chestnut red, of a somewhat lighter and more even shade than the Rhode Island Reds. The chicks are also a lighter red

 

[gojira]

It depends on your goals for breeding. You ate going to be making hybrids by mating these two birds, but you state you do not want hybrid birds. Yes, New Hampshires were developed from Rhode Island Reds, but that was 100 years ago, and when the Rhode Island Red had just been produced itself, and type had not been set. As far as meat and egg production, that depends on your expectations. I would imagine egg production would be good, but maybe not great or excellent, but they might be fairly old before ready to butcher, and might not be very large even then.

 

[Rasputin66]

A hybrid is the offspring of two different species of animals. A cross is the offspring of two animals which are different breeds of the same species. If you breed your two birds in the picture, you'll have a cross between a NH and a RIR. Which is fine, if you just want to eat the eggs and not show the birds or sell the chicks? I'm confused about what your question even is or why you are concerned about these two birds?

 

[Egghead_Jr]

It will take a few generations to widen out the pinched tail the hatchery RIR is sporting. She isn't a good choice to start a dual purpose bird project with. Hatchery birds are bred for laying and it shows in their body structure. Can it be done in two or three years? Maybe. You're better off getting breeder stock Rhode Island Reds. Then you are starting with the color and size of bird you want. A real dual purpose bird.

 

[Titan Farm]

Your hen is Production Red not a Rhode Island Red.
After a few years of breeding you should have improved the size of the production red and most of the chicks should have her "brown-ish" color.

Note she is by far the Mahogany color that a RI Red should be that is why I described her color as brown-ish.

 

[chickendreams24]

Guys guys I don't want to get in the middle of this but I must say.

This member came on here for some advice and help you guys have turned this into something that shouldn't be on this thread.

I'm not siding with anyone I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong I'm saying this is the wrong place and he wrong time.

It's also not very byc like.

 

[DuckLady]

Thread has been cleaned up.

Guys guys I don't want to get in the middle of this but I must say.

This member came on here for some advice and help you guys have turned this into something that shouldn't be on this thread.

I'm not siding with anyone I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong I'm saying this is the wrong place and he wrong time.

It's also not very byc like.

Agreed. Let's go back to being helpful.