Cocciodosis

[AGeese]

Of course I could just be a overly cautious new parent. She's pepped up today eating scrambleds and larvae, but still small poops.

I've got a pic un altered, which appears to show red, but only in the image. I can't say I see the red in the poop itself.

I'm thinking of going forward with the corid now. So I'll get that started spend some time cleaning her area and put some classical music on for her.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

One other potiential symptom that came to mind is yawning.

I do have miconazole with the tubes, and a generic on hand. If she's not eating enough she does appear a little scrauny. I don't have a tube on hand to tube feed. I'll have to see if I can locate a feeding tube tomorrow.

She was in with her mates that picked on her until she was moved to a different pen. Didn't look all that terrible just a tad fearful, but still full of life, but I'm not very familar with Leige.

She gobbled up some scrambled this morning. I do have some grit available to her, and I have everyone on epsom salt flush via drinkers.

Do you have photos of her and her poop?

I would not put epsom salts in the drinkers. A flush is given perhaps 1-3times a day all at once, then the bird drinks their normal water. Epsom salts is very dehydrating and can cause diarrhea, so she needs fresh water. A flush should only given when there's a clear crisis need to flush the system, say you are treating severe sour crop, an impaction or trying to flush a toxin from the body.

Was she a lone bird shipped or shipped with more than one in the box?
She's likely suffering from shipping stress.

If you don't want to go with Corid for now, give her sugar water (1tsp sugar to 1cup water).

You mention she's scrawny, but if this is a Pullet and a Liege Fighter, then she's going to be in the slim built but get heavier as she ages, but won't have the body type of say an Orpington.

Where did she come from, a breeder or from Greenfire?

I'd feed her her normal feed, see that she's drinking well, omit that epsom salts all together. Provide grit (crushed granite) free choice. If she's new and alone, I'd keep her separate from the existing flock for an observation period, then once satisfied that she's healthy, begin a slow integration.

 

[AGeese]

Definitely had some transport stress, I opted for that as opposed to shipping because they check on the birds along the way.

I'll cut the epsom salt drinkers, I probably didn't do a full dosage either. She's very pep still, and eating well. I was going to start the corid, but saw her produce a healthy sized dropping that finally looked normal.

So just before I came up to check in here, I caught her yawn again. She's in the porch with straw and I've seen her pecking it, but I do have granite laying out. I've encoraged her to take some, which I believe she has. I'm not so sure that the yawn is an issue, but it does raise flags.

So appetite is good, engery is good, personality is fair. I'll check crop now, as I'm getting ready to clean up and reorganize the porch.

She's from another member's farm. I'm definitley not out to claim any problem with their stock. The other two I got from them are incredible and strong.

This one is just a couple months younger and got a little beat up by them at first.

I'll get some pics in a bit.

 

[AGeese]

Ok I may have overeacted. Unless the Ivermectin did something, I think it was just stress and isolation. She's worlds better now that I've been involved with her this afternoon, and I haven't started any Corid yet. Droppings are looking pretty normal.

I'll go ahead and make a new topic for her if she seems to regress.

Thanks for the advice, and dosage info! Hopefully this worked out for the OP otherwise my sympathies.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

This one is just a couple months younger and got a little beat up by them at first.

So when she arrived, you put her in with other birds that are already established? She got beat up a bit.

There's your added stress, hunkering down, acting scared, etc.

Work her through shock from shipping and getting a bit beat up.

Once she's eating/drinking and acclimated a bit, start a slow integration. Introducing a single bird can be a real pain.

 

[AGeese]

So when she arrived, you put her in with other birds that are already established? She got beat up a bit.

There's your added stress, hunkering down, acting scared, etc.

Work her through shock from shipping and getting a bit beat up.

Once she's eating/drinking and acclimated a bit, start a slow integration. Introducing a single bird can be a real pain.

It happened unbeknownst to me at first attempt with transport, it was corrected, not sure how long it lasted. Then when I picked them up she had hid under the seat so they must have drove her to it.

When I got home I put her in a pen separate, from her mates she was transported with. I attempted to let her out supervised, but I could see that wasn't going to work so I kept her in the pen and when I noticed the droppings I made the call to move her older mates who seem fine out to a pen I initially attempted to place her in near the established flock.

The idea was she would get used to my flock first and join them since she's the odd one out instead of being last, but that's where I saw her shiver. So I brought her back in the porch and took the others out to the pen.

Now she has the porch to herself. I don't see any indication of a problem in the other birds so I'll probably keep them in that pen another week while little girl stays in the porch where I can look after her.

I couldn't find any classical on the radio so I switched it to religious programming with some old fashioned Christmas music. I think that really made a difference.

She's very springy, and will get up and get pecking around when I check on her now.

Will update with picks shortly.
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[Wyorp Rock]

Good looking girl!

I'd just integrate slowly. Never had Liege Fighters, but do have American Gamefowl. Not sure of the temperament of Liege, but with GF you can have one now and again that is a bit intimidated and needs a little more attention for a while until they come into their own.
Once separated out, even for a day, they don't like each other anymore, so I do not separate my GF hens at all LOL
Roosters and the other hand, they can't be near each other period.

 

[AGeese]

Moar pics. These are the initial droppings that had me wondering. They're now thick like they should be white and dark, still a slight green tinge, but normal consistency.

They were also very small, enlarged for the shot.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

If the poop is back to normal now, I'd chalk those worrisome ones up to stress.

I'd still monitor her heavily though, but I think she'll come around o.k. her stance looks good.