Double Coated Dog Breeds (More Specifically:Blow Outs)

[Quackter]

When I took my dogs and cats off of commercial dog food and started feeding them a raw diet, the shedding decreased dramatically. No more puff balls all over the house, no more crazy blow out for the seasonal shedding. I've had 2 Samoyeds, a Great Pyr, 3 Golden Retrievers, and a few mixed breads. I adopted a friend's 5 yr old part Maine Coon cat who doubled in size because of his coat improvement when I put him on raw. When they later saw him, they couldn't believe it. They didn't remember him having so much fur. Also, I rarely bathe them anymore. I used to bathe often, now they don't smell, don't poop as much, don't have skin issues. the raw diet has made them much healthier.

Have you noticed any irritability / aggression issues from raw meat? With people or other animals?

I've always heard raw meat triggers aggressiveness in dogs, from my experience it seems to be true. I don't know the reason, whether it's the hormones and brings out the wolf in them, or because it really taste good and is worth fighting for, so maybe level would level out after it wasn't a novelty? Could be they feel better and just get feisty too?

I have no doubt on a raw being effective for allergies and overall health or maybe just not heated to 250 degrees? Any time we bring an organic much above boiling, (like canned and dry dog food), a lot of "toxic" or at least questionable molecules start forming. Not questioning the premise or the results, just interested. (P.S. Samoyeds are awesome, awesome dogs.)

 

[Kholts]

Wow, that looks like a skin condition. It looks like more than just regular shedding. Does your dogs for fur feel oily at all?

No the opposite actually it is/was super dry. I say was because he’s been on salmon oil added to his food for almost 2 weeks and I noticed last night his fur was softer.

As for baths he was only getting them 6 week intervals & I’d say even closer to 8 due to wet fall. I was waiting for the ground to freeze up a bit before I bathed again.

 

[Duck_life]

I have a WHITE german shepherd who sheds a LOT in the spring and fall, we have black and brown furniture, and I wear black pants most of the time. It get's really messy!!!

 

[coach723]

I've always heard raw meat triggers aggressiveness in dogs

That is a fallacy, I've been feeding raw for almost 15 years and that has never been an issue, including with an actual wolf hybrid dog. Aggression has many roots, but diet is only a contributor in the sense that if diet is contributing to health problems like pain,etc, then it's a contributor. Otherwise it's usually genetics or handling or both. Any dog with aggressive traits has to be managed differently than a happy-go-lucky dog.
The raw diet is also commonly referred to as the B.A.R.F diet, meaning Biologically Appropriate Raw Food, or Bones And Raw Food. There are companies that make human grade raw food or you can do on your own with some research. It is a bit more involved than opening a bag or a can everyday, but I find it well worth the effort. If all I ever ate was some nuggets (same ones every day, day in and day out) from a bag and drank some water, I don't think I'd consider myself to be on a healthy diet, same applies to them.
Good article here (affiliated with a brand- you can find info that is not), many more online:
https://rawbistro.com/blogs/raw-bistro/barf-diet-for-dogs

 

[WhoDatChick]

Basically, you feed a lot of raw meat, a little bone. Some people add pureed veggies or cooked veggies, some don't. In general I feed chicken leg quarters (they're cheap) and boneless pork. So, depending on size, my dogs get a leg quarter and chunk of pork. When I find cheap beef, they get that. There is some trial and error when you get started. In general you feed 2%-3% of the dog's weight. So a 100lb. dog would eat 2-3 lbs. of food a day. My Cattle Dog mix is half the size of my Golden Retriever, but they eat the same amount of food because the Cattle Dog never shuts off! When I had my Great Pyr, she wasn't huge and ate less than my Golden. She wasn't a working dog, just a pet. Here is a group that would help you get started: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawfeedingcarnivores/

Thank you very much!

 

[WhoDatChick]

Basically, you feed a lot of raw meat, a little bone. Some people add pureed veggies or cooked veggies, some don't. In general I feed chicken leg quarters (they're cheap) and boneless pork. So, depending on size, my dogs get a leg quarter and chunk of pork. When I find cheap beef, they get that. There is some trial and error when you get started. In general you feed 2%-3% of the dog's weight. So a 100lb. dog would eat 2-3 lbs. of food a day. My Cattle Dog mix is half the size of my Golden Retriever, but they eat the same amount of food because the Cattle Dog never shuts off! When I had my Great Pyr, she wasn't huge and ate less than my Golden. She wasn't a working dog, just a pet. Here is a group that would help you get started: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawfeedingcarnivores/

And by “raw”.. meaning “uncooked”...?

 

[Eevee]

I am in Alberta too, and the temperature is starting to get chilly. I have a husky who has a double coat. She's been shedding for a few weeks now. I find an undercoat rake type comb 2 or 3 times a week really helps keep the hair/shedding to a minimum. Now in the spring you could brush her every day for an hour and she'd still have hair flying everywhere lol.

 

[coach723]

And by “raw”.. meaning “uncooked”...?

Yes, raw means uncooked. Foods digestibility and nutrition changes after cooking. Meat and bones should be raw, other ingredients might be gently cooked, depending on what you feed, rice for instance (not suggesting, just saying).
I used to buy 20 lb boxes of chicken and turkey necks for my dogs and was asked by the cashier what I do with them. When I told her it was for my dogs she asked if I cooked all that. I asked her when was the last time she saw a pack of wolves or coyotes sitting around a fire cooking their kill? I also used to have a source for ground chicken backs (gone now sadly), which looked like any ground up chicken, but had the bones in it ground up, and inexpensive since the backs are not real sought after. For any species, a diet that is close to what nature intended is what they are designed for and what they will do best on. And bones become brittle once cooked, raw they are more 'soft' and pliable, which means no shards. The kind and size of bones depends on the size of your dog and the way they eat (chewer, nibbler, gulper). If you have a good butcher nearby, usually that is the best source for bones.

 

[Kayla's Lunch]

Have you noticed any irritability / aggression issues from raw meat? With people or other animals?

I've always heard raw meat triggers aggressiveness in dogs, from my experience it seems to be true. I don't know the reason, whether it's the hormones and brings out the wolf in them, or because it really taste good and is worth fighting for, so maybe level would level out after it wasn't a novelty? Could be they feel better and just get feisty too?

I have no doubt on a raw being effective for allergies and overall health or maybe just not heated to 250 degrees? Any time we bring an organic much above boiling, (like canned and dry dog food), a lot of "toxic" or at least questionable molecules start forming. Not questioning the premise or the results, just interested. (P.S. Samoyeds are awesome, awesome dogs.)

I was a member of the Yahoo group on rawfeeding (now on Facebook) with thousands of members. They haven't had any of the dogs become aggressive. Some dogs may be more possessive of their food because they finally have "good" food worth protecting. My Pyr would snarl viciously at the Golden as he took her food, but never did anything. Some dogs are more protective of their favorite belongings. When my dogs are puppies and are teething, eating something like a leg quarter can be difficult, I have one of the kids sit on the floor and hold their food for them. They learn at a young age, all good things come to them from us humans. I also make it a habit with new dogs/puppies to feed them some good yummy thing when they are eating so that an interruption by the humans is a good thing. I saw a better emotional and physical states after switching to raw. They enjoy their food, especially if you give them something that takes a bit to chew rather that dry nuggets to just swallow. We humans are more satisfied with eating a varied diet with different textures and flavors, why wouldn't a dog?

 

[WhoDatChick]

Yes, raw means uncooked. Foods digestibility and nutrition changes after cooking. Meat and bones should be raw, other ingredients might be gently cooked, depending on what you feed, rice for instance (not suggesting, just saying).
I used to buy 20 lb boxes of chicken and turkey necks for my dogs and was asked by the cashier what I do with them. When I told her it was for my dogs she asked if I cooked all that. I asked her when was the last time she saw a pack of wolves or coyotes sitting around a fire cooking their kill? I also used to have a source for ground chicken backs (gone now sadly), which looked like any ground up chicken, but had the bones in it ground up, and inexpensive since the backs are not real sought after. For any species, a diet that is close to what nature intended is what they are designed for and what they will do best on. And bones become brittle once cooked, raw they are more 'soft' and pliable, which means no shards. The kind and size of bones depends on the size of your dog and the way they eat (chewer, nibbler, gulper). If you have a good butcher nearby, usually that is the best source for bones.

Thank you... very good info...