FINALLY! SWOLLEN EYE SINUS LUMP SWELLING CURE TREATMENT

[casportpony]

Or are the 500 mg tabs Cipro?

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

Hi Kathy,

Can I ask what dose of Cipro and Baytril you use? I have 2 chickens (pets) that are likely internal layers/chronic EYP. I've been using Baytril so far (~20mg BID) but I'd like to have Cipro in my back pocket if I need it and it's not too easy to find that dosing for these guys.....thanks

You say you have been giving Baytril to internal layers?
Why would this help them lay?
I am confused as to why you give baytril for what?
IF BAYTRIL CAUSES MEAT AN EGGS TO BE BAD YOU SHOULD NOT EAT THE EGGS.
I AM CONFUSE AS TO USING SUCH TACTICS, FOR WHAT GOOD IN THE END?
ARE THESE PETS SO VAUABLE?

 

[Kiki]

I have a whole bunch more that I will add later.

Thanks for adding me Kathy!



just picking atcha!

 

[casportpony]

@Glenda Heywoodo see this picture? Two bacteria need to be treated, and the antibiotics that work have an "s" next to them (anything with an r will not work - r means resistant). So look at the chart and find a drug that will treat both.

First on the list is enrofloxacin
Second is gentamycin, but gentamycin should be use very cautiously I think.
Third is neomycin, but neomycin only works on gut bacteria.
Fourth is strepomycin, and I know nothing about that one, nor do I know where to buy it.

Of the four listed, enrofloxacin is the easiest to get, and the most appropriate antibiotic in this case.

Does that make sense? If anyone else can add to that or explain it better, please do so.

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

I will use Baytril or Cipro on duck, turkeys, chickens, peafowl, etc, and I think the OP (@echix ) used both on her chicken. It's a personal choice. A person that sells meat or eggs probably shouldn't use it on their birds that they sell for meat or on the ones that they sell eggs from.

If I use it on one of my meat ducks, that duck gets a leg band and joins the "pet" flock. Any animal, other than peafowl, that were treated her with an antibiotic are never sold.

CASPORTPONY
IF YOU USE THIS ON A CHICKEN YOU COULD NOT EAT THE EGGS FROM THIS CHICKEN?
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW HER EGGS?
AND THEN YOU MUST JUST KEEP BIRDS FOR PETS.
DO YOU EVER SELL ANY OF THESE BIRDS THAT HAVE BEEN DOCTORED WITH BYTRIL?
I M LEARNING SO MUCH HERE.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: I eat the eggs after waiting about a week. I do not sell eggs, nor do I give them away. The meat duck I sell are never treated with antibiotics.

 

[casportpony]

@smooch177 , I can teach you how to make your own Cipro suspension. All you need is a mortar and pestal, and these:

 

[smooch177]

Or are the 500 mg tabs Cipro?

Yesiree, the 500mg tabs are Cipro (the enrofloxacin tabs I found were 10 mg)--- and YES I would LOVE to know how to make that Cipro suspension, I've got my mortar and pestle ready and I'll track down some of that sweet stuff asap

That table you posted with antibiotic sensitivities to E. Coli is awesome, really makes you wonder why anyone even tries to treat this kind of stuff with penicillin, tetracyclines or tylosin? That E. coli is one bad player.

 

[smooch177]

You say you have been giving Baytril to internal layers?
Why would this help them lay?
I am confused as to why you give baytril for what?
IF BAYTRIL CAUSES MEAT AN EGGS TO BE BAD YOU SHOULD NOT EAT THE EGGS.
I AM CONFUSE AS TO USING SUCH TACTICS, FOR WHAT GOOD IN THE END?
ARE THESE PETS SO VAUABLE?

Think this question might have also been directed my way, so I'll just speak for myself and add my 2 cents.

All ten of my chickens are extremely valuable to me. I raised them by hand, I consider them all pets and have and will be continuing to treat them in the same manner as I do my basset hound if she becomes ill and needs medical attention.

In regards to the internal laying, the baytril is not to help them lay, it's to treat the secondary chronic egg yolk peritonitis. I've heard that a possible side effect from baytril is cessation of egg laying, which would be much welcomed in my situation, but unfortunately it has not happened yet for my two affected girls. Therefore I'm actually looking into getting a suprelorin implant (hormone implant to stop egg laying) for them since they are my pets....now there's a whole new can of mealworms!! I don't keep chickens for the meat, I'm not even that much of an egg eater, I'm animal lover. They're special to me and I'd like to have them around for as long as I can as long as they're happy

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

Think this question might have also been directed my way, so I'll just speak for myself and add my 2 cents.

All ten of my chickens are extremely valuable to me. I raised them by hand, I consider them all pets and have and will be continuing to treat them in the same manner as I do my basset hound if she becomes ill and needs medical attention.

In regards to the internal laying, the baytril is not to help them lay, it's to treat the secondary chronic egg yolk peritonitis. I've heard that a possible side effect from baytril is cessation of egg laying, which would be much welcomed in my situation, but unfortunately it has not happened yet for my two affected girls. Therefore I'm actually looking into getting a suprelorin implant (hormone implant to stop egg laying) for them since they are my pets....now there's a whole new can of mealworms!! I don't keep chickens for the meat, I'm not even that much of an egg eater, I'm animal lover. They're special to me and I'd like to have them around for as long as I can as long as they're happy

I WAS NOT DIRECTING MY THOUGHTS T ANY ONE, JUST TO GET THE ANSWER,

ALSO WE HAD PURE BRED Basset Hounds and bred them and kept them as pets perse:

I BRED AND RAISED THOUSANDS CHICKENS FOR SOME 65-1/2 YS;

AND IN DOING SO AND NEVER USED ANY THING BUT:

(1) DUST TO KEEP OUT LICE ETC. 5% SEVN WAS USED IN MY DAY.

(2) COCCIDIOSIS MEDICATION FOR CHCKENS.

( 3 ) SOME OILS ETC TO PREPARE LEGS AND FEET FOR SHOW.

I NEVER KEPT ANY BIRD OF PURE BREEDING, IF SICK, KILLED IT AND GOT ANOTHER BIRDTO REPLACE IT.

I NEVER HAD PET CHICKENS, BUT DO NOT RESENT OTHERS FOR HAVING PET CHICKENS AT ALL.

THAT IS WHY FOR OVER 15 YRS I HAVE HAD RESPONSES TO HELP THOSE WITH THEIR POULTRY PROBLEMS.

AS IF YOU READ MY POSTS IT WAS TO HELP THOSE IN NEED OF POSITIVE HELP TO DO SO.

I NEVER KNOW WHAT INJECTBLES THEY ARE USING NOW ,

AS I NEVR, EVER USED INJECTBLES IN ALL MY 60-1/2YRS TENDING CHICKENS./

29-1/2 YRS I WROTE AND PUBLISHED NATIONAL POULTRY NEWS.

WE ALSO RAISED AND I CARED FOR THE POULTRY ,

AS MY HUSBAND WORKED A FULL JOB AT THE UP RAILROAD AND CAME HONE AN SLEPT 4 HRS AND GOT UP TO TEND OUR 350 HIVES OF BEES.

ON HARVESTHE HONEY. THEN I HELDP LOAD INTO THE TRUCK UP STEPS THE 80 LB SUPRS OF HONEY;

AND THEN I EXTRACTED IT ALSO. AS MY HUSBAND HAD ALOT OF WORK TO DO.

SO I KNOW HARD WORK.

NATIONAL POULTRY NEWS WAS A POUTRY PULICATION WITH SHOWBIRDS.

BUT ALSO ARTICLES THAT HELPED SOME KIND OF PROBLEM PEOPLE HAD TO RAISE THEIR CHICKENS PERSE:

I RESPECT YOU ALL WHO HAVE PETS AND WANT TO KEEP THEM.

THAT IS YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT AS A HUMAN ON THIS EARTH TO DO SO.

THANKS FOR ANSWRING ME AS I KNOW OTHERS WILL READ THIAT ANSWER ALSO.