SimpleJenn
Leading the SSV Normandy crew
I am a whole state away! I live on the opposite side of Michigan. We chose to meet in the middle, at the state Capitol.I don’t think she is too far from Detroit.
Lucky it’s not snowing though!
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I am a whole state away! I live on the opposite side of Michigan. We chose to meet in the middle, at the state Capitol.I don’t think she is too far from Detroit.
Lucky it’s not snowing though!
547 miles. Jenn met me part way.I wonder just how many miles Bob drove to and from Jenn’s place?
Thank you.@Logar , there are a coupe of things you should probably consider next time:
First, @BY Bob is quite knowledgable in the medical field.
Second, you shouldn't essentially 'call-out' someone without first doing your due diligence and researching first. While a few local reputable snake handlers may have a different experience, it doesn't make it universal. (Yes, I am a statistician - you can't use a tiny sample of an isolate group and assume that the results will be the same when you significantly expand the 'base population' you will apply it to. Plus, a very small sample is inherently bad predictor for the larger population because it can be skewed drastically if it includes just one outlier
Here is a study/systematic review of multiple studies regarding this.
I am sure you could find additional information that is reputable. There is a wide variation between results - which could have to do with snake type, depth of bite, etc. But, regardless, it is a known fact that small diameter puncture wounds are very hard to properly cleanse to rinse out/flush out/disinfect the wound.
And, yes, I researched and found a couple of studies prior to me responding. This systematic review of multiple studies, in my opinion, holds the most weight because it includes multiple samples - making for a larger pool, and a more comprehensive and verifiable result. (i.e. if one study was not conducted well, it might be refuted by results of other studies...so looking across the board at multiple studies generally gives a broader and more accurate overall picture of reality.)
You know what I like - stripes, wattles, and that gorgeous grey lady of yours - come on pay your tax (darn grey jersey giants need to be added to my needs list).Actually not one of them is local. One lives in Virginia, another in Texas, one in California, and another in Minnesota. The closest is about 4 hours away. Yes, a larger sample size would be much better but these people have had much more experience with the bitey end of snakes than the majority of the population. And I did my research first. I have spent 1000s of hours researching reptiles over the past 4-5 years and have talked to countless breeders and other reptile keepers alike. I have done tons of research on snake bites, most on venomous ones but non venomous as well.
And yes, that is a great source. But that is for venomous snake bites which results in necrosis of tissues making the risk of I infection highly likely. I have specifically been referring to non venomous North American colubrids.
Wow! Ok I stand corrected - that’s 880km!547 miles. Jenn met me part way.
Oh and also need dark Brahmas - and a bigger barn…Jingle is getting so friendly! And Goldie is as unhappy as ever that I wasn’t spending every second of the day paying attention to herView attachment 3958139
SHRA taxYou know what I like - stripes, wattles, and that gorgeous grey lady of yours - come on pay your tax (darn grey jersey giants need to be added to my needs list).