Goats ate chicken feed

[HuskerHens18]

It is probably too late now, but this is for future reference. When the goats get into the grain, WITHOLD ALL WATER for maybe 12 hours and fill them up on dry hay. The excess grain ferments in the rumen and produces lactic acid. The acid kills the gut bacteria, and sometimes the goat. Without water, the deadly reaction cannot occur. The hay will help dilute it the excess grain. You probably have a different situation. Once they have tanked up on water, there is no point restricting it. Administration of anti acids will help a lot. Also, give them a shot of penicillin. Penicillin is effective against the clostridium perfingens bacteria that causes enterotoxemia. See if you can get some clostridium perfingens antitoxin from the feed store or somewhere and give it ASAP. I do not give oil to my goats for bloat. I use Gas X. It is fast, safe, and very effective. It is too easy to get oil in the lungs of a struggling goat and in that case while you may have cured the bloat, you will have killed the goat. At this point your best bet is some anti acids and some penicillin. Once when my goats got into the grain because some idiot left the gate open and I did not find them for some time the vet gave me a pink powder called I think Rumalax that you mix with water. It is an anti acid and a laxative. I made a stomach tube out of a piece of plastic tubing and a funnel, but you can use a turkey baster. I just now thought of this. Get some pepto bismol and use that. The rumalax I mentioned is essentially powdered pepto bismol, and the pepto bismol is a lot easier to get your hands on. Good luck. Unfortunately, I've been there, done that.

no worries at all. check the label for amprolium.
Medicated chick starter with amprolium is a coccidiostat. Which means it is a thiamine inhibitor only.
It takes several days for it to deplete all thiamine in a goat.
I was educated this fact by my vet whom cares for my big herd.
IF you feel like it will give you peace of mind-
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This is Thaimine Mononitrate. Take one 100 mg tablet, crush it up real good into powder. Add water and oral drench your goat(s).
You can always find me here if you need help. On find me at BackYardHerds.com
I care for Nigerians as well.

Wow thank you guys so much for the info, I've got it saved on my phone so I won't forget. I'll get Gas-X in them right away, my local TSC didn't have the antitoxin so I'll have to get it tomorrow. I'll see if I have any Proto bismol in the medical cabinet, I know I used to. You guys are awesome, I feel better now. I don't think they got a ton, but I can't tell how much feed is missing out of the barrel as the chickens also had free range to it and they're pigs about spilled feed. Maybe even more so than the goats. As of today nobody's bellies looked bloated or hard, they were pretty soft actually. Again, thank you all. God bless, I appreciate this Very much

 

[cassie]

if your goats are acting OK and eating normally, they are probably OK. It all depends on how much chicken feed they ate. When you go to the feed store get some CD/T toxoid. That is to prevent entero and tetanus. The antitoxin is cheap insurance to have on hand, but if they aren't sick tomorrow, don't bother giving it. If they are ill, go ahead and give it. Right now, feed them as much dry hay as they will eat. If you are lucky, the worst that will happen as a result of their escapade is a dandy case of scours for a day or two. Now if they are standing around, all droopy and hunched up tomorrow, that is another story. Call the vet.

As long as I had goats, two things I ALWAYS had on hand was an up-to-date bottle of entertoxemia antitoxin and Gas X. You may never need them but when you need them you need them NOW. Entero and bloat are true emergencies and prompt treatment is essential to save the animal's life.

 

[Lazy Farmer]

Wow thank you guys so much for the info, I've got it saved on my phone so I won't forget. I'll get Gas-X in them right away, my local TSC didn't have the antitoxin so I'll have to get it tomorrow. I'll see if I have any Proto bismol in the medical cabinet, I know I used to. You guys are awesome, I feel better now. I don't think they got a ton, but I can't tell how much feed is missing out of the barrel as the chickens also had free range to it and they're pigs about spilled feed. Maybe even more so than the goats. As of today nobody's bellies looked bloated or hard, they were pretty soft actually. Again, thank you all. God bless, I appreciate this Very much

I have so much to share but no time to spare. Goats have rumens.. Grain needs hay to be digested properly. Lots and lots of hay and no gas x. They need to spit it back up and chew it again.
Family is moving back in, everything here is time consuming and taking away my byc/byh response time.
No more goat grains for a few days.. all hay.
No human cures PLEASE..
THEY WILL BE MORE THAN FINE.

my local TSC didn't have the antitoxin so I'll have to get it tomorrow.

FOR WHAT????? amprolium. IT IS NOT TOXIC.

 

[HuskerHens18]

I have so much to share but no time to spare. Goats have rumens.. Grain needs hay to be digested properly. Lots and lots of hay and no gas x. They need to spit it back up and chew it again.
Family is moving back in, everything here is time consuming and taking away my byc/byh response time.
No more goat grains for a few days.. all hay.
No human cures PLEASE..
THEY WILL BE MORE THAN FINE.

FOR WHAT????? amprolium. IT IS NOT TOXIC.

if your goats are acting OK and eating normally, they are probably OK. It all depends on how much chicken feed they ate. When you go to the feed store get some CD/T toxoid. That is to prevent entero and tetanus. The antitoxin is cheap insurance to have on hand, but if they aren't sick tomorrow, don't bother giving it. If they are ill, go ahead and give it. Right now, feed them as much dry hay as they will eat. If you are lucky, the worst that will happen as a result of their escapade is a dandy case of scours for a day or two. Now if they are standing around, all droopy and hunched up tomorrow, that is another story. Call the vet.

As long as I had goats, two things I ALWAYS had on hand was an up-to-date bottle of entertoxemia antitoxin and Gas X. You may never need them but when you need them you need them NOW. Entero and bloat are true emergencies and prompt treatment is essential to save the animal's life.

@Farmer Connie The antitoxin is what @cassie said to get to prevent entertoxemia. I'm glad the amprolium isn't toxic to my poor goaties. As of this evening everyone is still acting fine and happy. I purchased a baby monitor and have it hung up in the Goat barn.
Now a quick question. My goats are free ranged on grass. I have them penned up and have all day to avoid another chicken feed accident. The only "hay" I have is alfalfa/Orchard grass (my TSC is awful at staying stocked, I wanted straight alfalfa for the lactating nanny), or some corn leaves and corn stalks I keep for bedding. Would any of this be a good hay substitute or should I keep all that away and buy a square of actual hay?
I probably sound like a very inexperienced Goat owner, things have just gone so perfectly up until now. I'm very flustered.

 

[Flamens Farm]

Would you feel better if you just bought the bail of hay and not worried about if the other stuff would be ok? If it was me I would buy the bail of hay.

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

I think at this point if they are acting normal and eating I would guess any risk of problems is past. Keeping baking soda available free choice can help avoid troubles with any acidosis.

 

[cassie]

I have so much to share but no time to spare. Goats have rumens.. Grain needs hay to be digested properly. Lots and lots of hay and no gas x. They need to spit it back up and chew it again.
Family is moving back in, everything here is time consuming and taking away my byc/byh response time.
No more goat grains for a few days.. all hay.
No human cures PLEASE..
THEY WILL BE MORE THAN FINE.

FOR WHAT????? amprolium. IT IS NOT TOXIC.

I have so much to share but no time to spare. Goats have rumens.. Grain needs hay to be digested properly. Lots and lots of hay and no gas x. They need to spit it back up and chew it again.
Family is moving back in, everything here is time consuming and taking away my byc/byh response time.
No more goat grains for a few days.. all hay.
No human cures PLEASE..
THEY WILL BE MORE THAN FINE.

FOR WHAT????? amprolium. IT IS NOT TOXIC.

Look. GasX is used for bloat, only for bloat, and not indigestion. It is an emergency treatment. If you have a goat that is blowing up like a balloon GasX will deflate her faster and safer than anything I have ever tried. Before another dairyman told me about GasX, I used every suggested bloat treatment in the book including, but not limited to, oil, bloat-a-dote and everything else the veterinary books and practitioners recommended. The usual result was that the animal died in my arms. With GasX the animal deflated and lived. For the record, just about everything I suggest I have used in my dairy and on my own animals. I bred dairy goats for over 40 years and for many of those years I had a commercial dairy. I milked over 100 does and had at least twice that number of animals on the place at any one time. I am not saying this to prove that I am the goat expert of the century and that I know everything there is to know about goats, but to point out that I didn't just fall off the turnip truck and that what I have to say just might have some merit.

 

[Duckztailz1]

It was already said but chicken food can cause bloat in goats and sheep.

 

[HuskerHens18]

It was already said but chicken food can cause bloat in goats and sheep.

Yeah I knew that, that's why I made the thread. I didn't know how to treat it

 

[HuskerHens18]

All goats are good, they're no longer allowed outside without supervision because my troublemaker, Herbie, attempted to break into the chicken house again.
My pregnant nanny, Strawberry, will be giving birth this week! Anyone want pics after they're born? She's supposed to have twins!