HELP!!! Swollen chicken eye about to burst?

[Juliet50]

Help my rooster’s eye is beyond swollen. Now he is bleeding from his nose on the swollen side. I don’t think he has much time unless someone can tell me what to do.
About two weeks ago he had a swollen eye and we treated it and it got better then we saw he had a terrible case of mites, no one else has or had mites so I don’t know what happened to him and now his eye is swollen again, except it’s beyond anything I’ve seen posted here. Can anyone help or is it too late? I do not have access to a chicken vet, but I’m giving him colloidal silver, oregano oil, garlic, huge doses of vitamin C (at least 1000-1500mg in water today and last night) Belladolla 200c, and he had around 500mg of amoxicillin last night, and 250mg every 12 hours today. It’s an old prescription and we don’t have much left. I have access to injectable penicillin and LA200 and eye drops from another chicken a while back called - neomycin and polymyxin b sulfates and gramicidin.
I was thinking maybe I should poke him with a needle on the lower area to try and relieve some pressure but I don’t even know if it’s got pus in it or not. I’m mostly worried about it exploding inward and killing him.

 

[OrpingtonManic]

@Eggcessive, can you help?

 

[Eggcessive]

Have you dealt before with a respiratory disease in your flock? Does he have a bad odor around his face? It could be coryza which smells bad. But ILT virus, another disease, may cause bloody mucus from the beak, and they can sling it around the walls of the coop. Does he have gurgly breathing, wheezing, or coughing? I would separate him. You can try applying a warm wet cloth to his eye as a warm compress to loosen any crust on his eye. Then with some help, you may be able to squeeze or express some white to pale yellow pus from around the eye. Clean the eye twice a day and apply either Terramycin or plain Neosporin ointment to the eye 2 times a day. Sulfa antibiotics including SMZ TMP, sulfadimethoxine are best for coryza, but ILT is a virus and won’t respond. Here is a very graphic video of removing pus:

 

[Juliet50]

Have you dealt before with a respiratory disease in your flock? Does he have a bad odor around his face? It could be coryza which smells bad. But ILT virus, another disease, may cause bloody mucus from the beak, and they can sling it around the walls of the coop. Does he have gurgly breathing, wheezing, or coughing? I would separate him. You can try applying a warm wet cloth to his eye as a warm compress to loosen any crust on his eye. Then with some help, you may be able to squeeze or express some white to pale yellow pus from around the eye. Clean the eye twice a day and apply either Terramycin or plain Neosporin ointment to the eye 2 times a day. Sulfa antibiotics including SMZ TMP, sulfadimethoxine are best for coryza, but ILT is a virus and won’t respond. Here is a very graphic video of removing pus:

Thank you for responding!
I don’t think it’s coryza because there is no bad smell and the pus doesn’t look like that.
I think it’s more likely some kind of infection, like respiratory or what you have suggested. He is gurgly breathing and just not breathing well. We got drops in his eyes last night after doing many warm compresses.
No one else has any symptoms. He has been separated for weeks due to his eye injury. I thought he was continually getting pecked in the eye, so I had him separate to heal. The blood started last night. Or picked up more noticeably then.
Is there anything else you suggest if it is some sort of infection or ILT?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I agree, it's infection of the eye. The pus needs to be removed in order for that to start healing up.

Good instructions and video on pressing out pus in the above posts.

Hard to know the cause of the infection whether it's respiratory disease, injury, getting some debris in the eye, etc. Hopefully he will feel much better once the eye is treated.

Thank you for responding!
I don’t think it’s coryza because there is no bad smell and the pus doesn’t look like that.
I think it’s more likely some kind of infection, like respiratory or what you have suggested. He is gurgly breathing and just not breathing well. We got drops in his eyes last night after doing many warm compresses.
No one else has any symptoms. He has been separated for weeks due to his eye injury. I thought he was continually getting pecked in the eye, so I had him separate to heal. The blood started last night. Or picked up more noticeably then.
Is there anything else you suggest if it is some sort of infection or ILT?

 

[Juliet50]

I agree, it's infection of the eye. The pus needs to be removed in order for that to start healing up.

Good instructions and video on pressing out pus in the above posts.

Hard to know the cause of the infection whether it's respiratory disease, injury, getting some debris in the eye, etc. Hopefully he will feel much better once the eye is treated.

I definitely still need help with this situation. I have been trying to get puss out but nothing is coming out. I’ve been using warm compresses up to an hour twice a day trying to get puss out and I’m pushing and pushing and now he’s bruising. I get mucus and blood out of his good eye, running out his nose, going down his throat, but absolutely no puss. I asked in the original message if anyone thought I should poke the lower area to see if I could get puss out that way. Does anyone think that’s a good idea? I don’t know what else to do. Thank you!

 

[Eggcessive]

I am going to post a few threads about cutting out the solidified pus after it has hardened. You also may want to get other antibiotic that may treat E.coli, and those include enrofloxacin and SMZ TMP (bactrim) or sulfadimethoxine.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...le-peacock-with-huge-lump-on-his-eye.1285385/

 

[Eggcessive]

Here is another thread about this. It seems that many people recommend using a large bore needle (18 gauge to try and suck out any pus first. If it has become solid many say that it has to be cut out. I have never done that and cannot recommend it. But read some threads and try to make up your own mind. A vet is always an option.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/swollen-side-of-face-cyst-surgery.504944/

 

[Juliet50]

Here is another thread about this. It seems that many people recommend using a large bore needle (18 gauge to try and suck out any pus first. If it has become solid many say that it has to be cut out. I have never done that and cannot recommend it. But read some threads and try to make up your own mind. A vet is always an option.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/swollen-side-of-face-cyst-surgery.504944/

Ok so I poked his eye with a large 18 gauge needle (the lower area) 3 times, all I got out was dark blood, no pus. There is a harder area towards the opening of his eye but I don’t feel like I should poke that area. I called a large animal vet that will see him on an emergency basis for 125.00 plus any treatment and it comes with a warning that “the chickens they’ve seen don’t do well”.
If I can get him through until Monday it will save me the 125.00 emergency fee. (Of course it still comes with the same warning.)
I don’t have access to a chicken vet.

I also went to the link about the peacock with this problem and someone recommended injecting 1cc of Tylan into his eye so I’m going to do that next unless you tell me not to. Hopefully he can make it until Monday or the swelling can go down so I can clearly see where to cut with a scalpel. I do not want to damage his eye.
Thank you again!

 

[casportpony]

Can you open the eye lids and get a picture?