Rooberty Rooster pecking order fighting

Toffael

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This is my first year owning chickens. I have two young roosters, each around six months old, who grew up together as buddies without any issues, along with two hens. (in photo during younger non conflict days)

Eight weeks ago, I introduced them to my existing flock of eight hens, bringing the total flock to two roosters and ten hens. That integration was successful albeit, inevitably created rooster leadership issues.

Stripey, the smaller rooster, seems to have hit puberty first. He’s been crowing for about three months and shows strong leadership and protective behavior toward the hens. He’s alert , protective, an organiser, , with a wonderful vibrant and happy personality—definitely my favorite.

Ebony, a larger rooster, started crowing three weeks ago and seems to have began trying to assert himself as flock leader. Over the last few days, he’s been initiating fights with Stripey. I noticed Stripey had minor bloody injuries on his face and comb from a fight 3 days ago, and when they free-range 2 days ago, Ebony continues to chase and attack him. Stripey has started to submit and flee from Ebony rather than engage. I also noticed yesterday that after a few half hearted chases, Ebony didn’t pursue stripy any further.

Using guidance from many discussions in this group, to give both of them a break, I separated Ebony into his own run/cop for a day, out of sight of main run, but still in audio reach. When I let them free-range again, I noticed that Stripey no longer tried to fight back; he’d immediately submit and run when Ebony chased him.

Yesterday I placed Ebony in a separate caged area within the main run (with two hens for company), so everyone could see and hear each other but they slept apart. Stripey stayed in the coop.

Today, when I let them all out together to free-range, there was no fighting, but I noticed Stripey seemed different—subdued, lethargic, and lacking his usual energy. He even refused mealworms from my hand, which is unusual for him. He seemed ‘defeated’. i felt really sad for him and about the whole situation, as Stripy is the first chicken i’ve ever got emotionally attached to and wanted him to be flock leader.

To be fair to Ebony, given he’s matured later, he hasn’t had a chance yet to show his leadership skills, nor has he ever been vicious, or nasty, simply just acting on his ingrained instincts.

I have some questions:

1. Has Stripey fully submitted to Ebony, and has Ebony accepted this? I read that if a rooster fight draws blood, it’s rarely solvable?

2. If I let them sleep together in the coop, will Ebony leave Stripey alone?

3. If Ebony is now the dominant rooster, I’ll accept it, but I’m feeling sad for Stripey, who was always my beautiful, confident boy. What does his future look like within this flock?

4. i noticed that Stripy was still mating with some of the hens today, while Ebony was also doing same. what does that indicate?

5. How can I tell if Ebony is a good leader for the flock, and what will Stripey’s future role be and will he regain his previous positive personality?
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You can't change the pecking order between the roosters. They may get along, and they may continue to fight. Most fighting occurs in the spring, under increasing light, and hormones. You may need to eventually remove one, or rotate who's out. They are young yet, and are in the teenager phase. Keep am eye on the situation and have another pen to keep one in of necessary.

I keep multiple rooster. I let mine fight it out unless one is really getting beat up. It usually happens in the spring. Occasionally one becomes a target, and needs to be penned separately.
 
Toffael, I am so curious to know more about what has happened with Stripey and Ebony since you posted in October, as I am dealing with a similar situation. basically, got a rooster to be friend to my other (magnificent!! loving! totally awesome!) rooster, and today, the new rooster (who is named Football) escaped his screened in area. Now, Manfred (the magnificent!) seems totally depleted and sad and, like you, wouldn't eat his treat from my hand the way he always does. It's just so sad, because when they were each safe and in their own space, they seemed like best friends. Today, when I discovered them after Football escaped, they were both bloody (as they were the one other time Football got to Manfred) and-- well, the whole situation was pretty sad. It just seems that Football is sort of a maniac once he has access to Manfred.

I would love to know what has happened with your roosters. In our house, we don't have any hens. It's just Manfred and Football, and I was really hoping that these two fellas (who are now enjoying a large, heated garage) would be able to forage around together once spring comes.

Any news from your world is welcome!

Thanks, Wendy
 
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I am so curious to know more about what has happened with Stripey and Ebony since you posted in October, as I am dealing with a similar situation. basically, got a rooster to be friend to my other (magnificent!! loving! totally awesome!) rooster, and today, the new rooster (who is named Football) escaped his screened in area. Now, Manfred (the magnificent!) seems totally depleted and sad and, like you, wouldn't eat his treat from my hand the way he always does. It's just so sad, because when they were each safe and in their own space, they seemed like best friends. Today, when I discovered them after Football escaped, they were both bloody (as they were the one other time Football got to Manfred) and-- well, the whole situation was pretty sad. It just seems that Football is sort of a maniac once he has access to Manfred.

I would love to know what has happened with your roosters. In our house, we don't have any hens. It's just Manfred and Football, and I was really hoping that these two fellas (who are now enjoying a large, heated garage) would be able to forage around together once spring comes.

Any news from your world is welcome!

Thanks, Wendy
Roosters are proud creatures so losing in a fight really hurts their pride. This can cause them to become withdrawn and depressed. Only thing you can do is keep an eye on him
 
Roosters are proud creatures so losing in a fight really hurts their pride. This can cause them to become withdrawn and depressed. Only thing you can do is keep an eye on him
Thanks for your reply, Frost Ranger. It really seems to be true that something fairly essential to Manfred's sense of himself has been injured.... This morning, he didn't want his treat (again!), and after he sort of tried to be interested in it, he just walked into his coop, as if he was just too withdrawn to even eat.

Does that happen? Could a rooster become so depressed and withdrawn that he actually stops eating?? And, do you have any ideas about how to help him get through/bounce back? It's just so crazy, as the whole point of getting Football was so that Manfred wouldn't have to be alone. We also learned that we'd have to get a whole bunch of hens if we wanted to go that direction, so I decided to go all rooster instead. I read a lot about bachelor flocks, and this made me feel optmistic about Manfred and Football. Even so, I was taking it slow, and it was not my decision for them to have access to each other yesterday. Football saw a small opening in the chicken wire (can you believe it!) and, it seems crawled his way out!

ALSO, FYI, Football was named Football by the rescue organization I adopted him from, and that's because he has no tail bone and no tail feathers-- so he really does look like a football! and he is so dang cute!)
 
Does that happen? Could a rooster become so depressed and withdrawn that he actually stops eating?? And, do you have any ideas about how to help him get through/bounce back?
Yes, sometimes they even die as they can lose the will to live.

To help him regain his pride you can provide him with his own coop and run and after the hens had their pick which male they like best, you could have two separate flocks in their own coops and runs, or let them free range and sort themselves out where to roost at night.
 
Yes, sometimes they even die as they can lose the will to live.

To help him regain his pride you can provide him with his own coop and run and after the hens had their pick which male they like best, you could have two separate flocks in their own coops and runs, or let them free range and sort themselves out where to roost at night.
We don't have any hens! Manfred is a rooster who was either dumped or-- well, we just don't know. He appeared on our front porch, and we tried to find his home but gave up after considerable looking. So, we took him in! He has an amazing rooster, and we love him a lot-- which is why we got Football. He was supposed to be a friend, but it seems that Football (who is a third the size of Manfred) is sort of a maniac. He seems totally sweet when I am around and supervising them both, but he has managed to get to Manfred twice (flew over a gate when I stepped away early on, and yesterday, busted through the chicken wire) and both times, it seems that-- despite his own injuries-- Manfred ended up feeling like the total loser. He stopped crowing a couple of weeks ago, and that was back when they seemed quite friendly.

So-- I guess the thing to look out for is to be certain he is eating and drinkiing? and then, if he doesn't come out of his little coop and start walking around again, I guess we have to put football somewhere else? any thoughts?
 
Thanks for your reply, Frost Ranger. It really seems to be true that something fairly essential to Manfred's sense of himself has been injured.... This morning, he didn't want his treat (again!), and after he sort of tried to be interested in it, he just walked into his coop, as if he was just too withdrawn to even eat.

Does that happen? Could a rooster become so depressed and withdrawn that he actually stops eating?? And, do you have any ideas about how to help him get through/bounce back? It's just so crazy, as the whole point of getting Football was so that Manfred wouldn't have to be alone. We also learned that we'd have to get a whole bunch of hens if we wanted to go that direction, so I decided to go all rooster instead. I read a lot about bachelor flocks, and this made me feel optmistic about Manfred and Football. Even so, I was taking it slow, and it was not my decision for them to have access to each other yesterday. Football saw a small opening in the chicken wire (can you believe it!) and, it seems crawled his way out!

ALSO, FYI, Football was named Football by the rescue organization I adopted him from, and that's because he has no tail bone and no tail feathers-- so he really does look like a football! and he is so dang cute!)
Bachelor flocks are a gamble. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't and sometimes they do until they don't. Hopefully Manfred gets his mojo back and soon
 
Toffael, I am so curious to know more about what has happened with Stripey and Ebony since you posted in October, as I am dealing with a similar situation. basically, got a rooster to be friend to my other (magnificent!! loving! totally awesome!) rooster, and today, the new rooster (who is named Football) escaped his screened in area. Now, Manfred (the magnificent!) seems totally depleted and sad and, like you, wouldn't eat his treat from my hand the way he always does. It's just so sad, because when they were each safe and in their own space, they seemed like best friends. Today, when I discovered them after Football escaped, they were both bloody (as they were the one other time Football got to Manfred) and-- well, the whole situation was pretty sad. It just seems that Football is sort of a maniac once he has access to Manfred.

I would love to know what has happened with your roosters. In our house, we don't have any hens. It's just Manfred and Football, and I was really hoping that these two fellas (who are now enjoying a large, heated garage) would be able to forage around together once spring comes.

Any news from your world is welcome!

Thanks, Wendy
pls give me a few hours and i will share all my experience! sorry to hear about your troubles!
 
Bachelor flocks are a gamble. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't and sometimes they do until they don't. Hopefully Manfred gets his mojo back and soon
Yeah, I was so optimistic, but it just seems that Football isn't at all the gentle type that Manfred (a Brahma who towers over FB) is....

Thanks for your replies, Forest Ranger!
 

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