Safeguard/fenbendazole for gapeworm?

[cindasana]

I saw a thread on the forum where someone recommended using Safeguard, the goat dewormer, for gapeworm in chickens and ducks. I was lucky enough to get a vet to pass some information about doseage, over the phone, but she was busy and I forgot to ask her if the treatment (she said 0.1ml of the 10% suspension should do for our Cayugas) needs to be repeated and, if it does, how long do I wait? Does anyone here have the answer to that? I would guess two weeks, if a repeat is needed, but I don't want to go on just my guess.

Also, she recommended giving it to them directly (orally), rather than putting it in their drinking water. This is unfortunate, because I want to dose all of our birds, and they don't take so well to being picked up and handled. Does anyone have any suggestions of what I could put the Safeguard on that would be sure to keep all the medication on it, but also that they'd want it? They don't like bread, so that easy solution is out, unfortunately..

 

[rungirl]

It's basically 1 cc per 10 lbs of bird. So a standard full sized chicken that weighs about 5 lbs would get 1/2 cc.

I get them in the morning when they are still penned in from over night...pick one up, dose her and set her free outside the pen... then on to the next. I use a small syringe and squirt it down their throat.

You should redose in 7-14 days to kill any emerging larva. Withdrawl time is 24 days from the first dose.

 

[cindasana]

Thanks for the reply! Would this be the same dosage for ducks then? I am dreading the dosing of them, unless I can figure out something to put it on that they would eat for sure..

 

[Miss Lydia]

Thanks for the reply! Would this be the same dosage for ducks then? I am dreading the dosing of them, unless I can figure out something to put it on that they would eat for sure..

Bread will work, put the dosage on a piece of bread more than likely they will gobble it right down with out question. [small pieces]

 

[cindasana]

Thank you, Miss Lydia...that had occurred to me as the best way of non-forcible feeding of the Safeguard but, unfortunately, my ducks don't like bread for some strange reason. Any other ideas maybe?

 

[rungirl]

It's not hard. Have someone help you. I have my daughter hold them so I have two hands free. Then I hold their head back with one hand and insert the syringe with the other. I just make sure that the beak is pointing up and I squirt it down the back of their throat so they get the whole dose. It's such a small amount of liquid anyway. We're talking 1/2 a cc. It's no big deal for them.

 

[Miss Lydia]

squirting down the throat can be tricky because if it gets into the lungs it can cause pneumonia so if you go that route be very careful. Okay another treat my ducks like is mashed up duck eggs like boiled eggs with shells and peas, I heat water till almost boiling and pour this on top of the egg and peas it thaws the peas. you may be able to entice them to eat this with the wormer in it, if you don't have many make each one it's own lil helping then have someone help you take it in to them so they are all eating at the same time out of their own dish. I am treating a chicken with Baytril right now and I make her up a mixture of yogurt crushed baytril and meal worms she gobbles it right down. I bring her in and put her in a dog crate so the rest of the flock doesn't get into it. oh and a sprinkling of mealworms mixed in might help entice them to eat it.

 

[Milly342]

I give fenbendazole to my dogs,ducks and chickens. I put fenbendazole .6 mil for 25 lbs in plain yogurt for my 10 chickens(they all eat out of the same dish, and .6 ml for 25 lbs for my 4 muscovy ducks. I usually dose for 5 days for the chickens and 3 days dosing for the ducks.
I put the fenbenzadole in wet dog food according to their weight I measure separately for each of the dog dishes. Safeguard has a measurement chart for dosage on the bottle.

Works very well. I eat the eggs during this period with some bromelain (pineapple derivative) because it kills parasites. I feel fine and so do my critters.

Yogurt is good for everything...fowl and water fowl can have plain yogurt without sugar because it boosts there immune system as well as makes a healthy layer. Shells are harder too.

 

[Don Andrews]

I notice that several people asked the same question. I too would like to know if I can add fenbendazole to the flock's water or feed, and if so, about dosage. Is there danger of overdose?

But an annoying feature of responders is that they ignore one's question and ask questions of their own: are you sure it's not respiratory? how old are the birds? or they tell you to take poop samples to the vet, etc.

What's wrong with answering the question or saying "I don't know?"

Fenbendazole is safe for dogs and puppies because it affects worm cells, not dog cells and it is flushed out of the intestinal tract in 48 hours. I wonder if the same is true for fowl.

 

[Miss Lydia]

I notice that several people asked the same question. I too would like to know if I can add fenbendazole to the flock's water or feed, and if so, about dosage. Is there danger of overdose?

But an annoying feature of responders is that they ignore one's question and ask questions of their own: are you sure it's not respiratory? how old are the birds? or they tell you to take poop samples to the vet, etc.

What's wrong with answering the question or saying "I don't know?"

Fenbendazole is safe for dogs and puppies because it affects worm cells, not dog cells and it is flushed out of the intestinal tract in 48 hours. I wonder if the same is true for fowl.

I used 1/4 cup of safe Guard to 1/4 cup of water mixed those together and poured over 4lbs of feed mixed and fed for 5 days doing same calculation each day. http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/solutions.html I used 4lbs of feed because that is basically what they eat a day.